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QUEENSRŸCHE Members Want GEOFF TATE To Stop Using Band's Name - Oct. 2, 2012
According to Billboard.com, members of the Seattle-based progressive rock band QUEENSRŸCHE are attempting to keep their former lead singer, Geoff Tate, from using the group's name until their dispute is resolved.

Tate, who was fired from QUEENSRŸCHE in June after fronting the group for three decades, recently sought to prevent his former bandmates from touring and operating under the QUEENSRŸCHE name without him. While ruling against Tate, the presiding judge determined that there was no legal hurdle in Tate also using the name with an all-new lineup of musicians. "I don't see any reason that Mr. Tate can't have the benefit, if he gets other members, of whatever name he uses of using the brand," Superior Court Judge Carol A. Schapira said during the July 13 court hearing. "I think [doing that would be] inherently confusing, although I'm sure the market can get these things sorted out," she added.

On September 2, Tate announced that he was launching his own version of QUEENSRŸCHE with RATT drummer Bobby Blotzer, former QUIET RIOT, OZZY OSBOURNE and WHITESNAKE bassist Rudy Sarzo and former MEGADETH and KING DIAMOND guitarist Glen Drover. Also on board in the new group are returning QUEENSRŸCHE guitarist Kelly Gray — who played with the band from 1998 until 2001 and also produced several of their albums — and keyboardist Randy Gane, who has toured and recorded with QUEENSRŸCHE and Geoff's solo group in the past.

In a motion for partial summary judgment filed September 21 in Washington state's King County Superior Court (see document below), guitarist Michael Wilton, drummer Scott Rockenfield and bassist Eddie Jackson ask that the court declare that Tate "has no right to the QUEENSRŸCHE band name, marks and media assets since he has no grant of authority from the Tri-Ryche Corporation [which controls all QUEENSRŸCHE name and trademark rights. — Ed.] that owns them, unless and until he is able to succeed on his claims to dissolve the QUEENSRŸCHE corporations, and to enter a permanent injunction to the same."

"The recent announcement of a second QUEENSRŸCHE lineup, upcoming tour plans and new musical direction has caused some confusion for our fans. This confusion has caused Scott, Michael and I to file a motion against our former vocalist to prevent him from using the name QUEENSRŸCHE," Jackson told Billboard.com in an exclusive statement. "Until now, we have never asked the court to intervene on our behalf but it seems like we have no choice now in light of Geoff's recent actions. We thank the fans who have been supporting us through this whole process and can't wait to unleash the one true QUEENSRŸCHE to the masses."

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COMMENT | Truth be told....
posted by : CarlWillat
10/2/2012 12:45:27 PM
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Tate asked the judge 3 months ago to have NOBODY to use the name until the official court date next year. He lost, they won. The judge said that both parties can use it. If the other 3 guys didn’t fight Tate in court then, there wouldn’t be an issue. They are now being greedy.

Tate wanted ZERO Queensryches’ and they forced a stupid judge decide their can be two. Hate Tate all you want, but he tried to save the name. The other 3 guys opened this can of worms. Now they are suing because in “winning” the first case, they didn’t win the way they wanted too.

I wish Tate won the first time and there was “Rising West” and “Geoff Tate”. It would have also given the other guys time to write a record. This whole thing sucks.



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COMMENT | 'RE: Truth be told....'
posted by : GOD LOVES SLAYER
10/2/2012 3:54:30 PM
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Tried to save the name? He's been killing it for the last 4 albums.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Truth be told....'
posted by : monkeytime
10/2/2012 4:46:57 PM
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Geoff Tate has been destroying the legacy and name of Queensryche for over a decade.


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COMMENT | #
posted by : Sadistikexekution
10/2/2012 12:51:07 PM
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Yeah Geoff, why don't you call your band Egoryche.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Riotass666
10/2/2012 5:06:19 PM
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Spit ryche in yar eye!


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posted by : kill metal
10/2/2012 12:54:28 PM
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Nobody should get to use the name untill this crap gets settled.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Scatter
10/2/2012 6:19:03 PM
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If a judge set a precedent like that it would effect dozens of bands.


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posted by : Voice Of Sanitry
10/2/2012 1:08:39 PM
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He can be a whiny, conniving bitch all he wants, like the judge said ultimately the market will decide.

And anyone who's been following the fans reactions on here, youtube and everywhere else, the market has already made up its mind.

It's come on Queensryche and fuck off Geoff Tate by about 50 to 5 (and three of them are Miranda)


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COMMENT | Somebody Call Vince McMahon!
posted by : rockphantom
10/2/2012 1:14:37 PM
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Queensryche should settle their differences in a cage match at WWE Hell In The Cell. Tate & 4 scabs VS. 3 original members of QR + 2 scabs in a cage match from hell!!


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COMMENT | 'RE: Somebody Call Vince McMahon!'
posted by : FVD
11/27/2012 7:00:55 AM
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....with Chris DeGarmo as Special Guest Referee!!! ;)


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posted by : Deathpool Dave
10/2/2012 1:16:15 PM
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I’m conniving next to you
In silent stupidity…


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COMMENT | it doesnt matter
posted by : jayray02
10/2/2012 1:18:55 PM
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what Tate "wanted" the fact of the matter is, as the document says, the only recourse tate has is to force a dissolution of the corporation> That is a very remote possibility. In the meantime, he has been fired and voted out of the Queensryche Corporation, and he will lose the right to the name


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COMMENT | Hmm...
posted by : davey_f
10/2/2012 1:41:04 PM
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2 of these bands...2 versions of LA Guns.

I beleive their were 2 versions of Ratt...enough already...whenthe band breaks up they break up!!!!


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COMMENT | Hey Geoff!
posted by : The_Bells_of_Lal
10/2/2012 1:44:39 PM
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You shouldn't bill yourself as "Geoff Tate of Queensryche" because you were FIRED and are not a member of the band anymore.


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COMMENT | Fruit
posted by : PunkRockJ
10/2/2012 1:48:25 PM
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And he chose that picture for his poster. What a sad bastard.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Fruit'
posted by : Gavsterino1
10/3/2012 6:23:31 AM
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What a sad state of afairs that your opinion on the Queensryche dabate comes down to what picture Geoff Tate uses on his posters. I'm sure there are many people out there that would agree that the man has had a stellar career in music, but if that is sad to you well so be it!!!


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posted by : obscured by clouds
10/2/2012 2:14:06 PM
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This is very simple, Tate will be called Queens and the rest will be called Ryche.


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COMMENT | ha ha
posted by : remraf
10/2/2012 2:28:32 PM
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Geoff TAINT. GET IT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? See, because it's Tate, but you say Taint instead, because it taint your ass, taint your...well, you get the idea. Funny, right?

That said, I am firmly in the none Tate corner. I wish the ruling of the court be that Geoff has to tour under the monikor "Geoff Tate and the Douche Nozzles."


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COMMENT | HA!
posted by : Abyss_of_Blood
10/2/2012 2:40:55 PM
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I was wondering who'd be the first to break out the Mindcrime logo. How ironic that is was Geoff "I Don't Wanna Be Metal" Tate. My how things change.

As an aside, I sure hope that Scott and the boys don't use that crappy ratchety erector set logo they have been sporting. Yuk.


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COMMENT | guys...
posted by : JOHNNY SNOT
10/2/2012 2:52:01 PM
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please shut the fuck up and make some new music.

please.


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COMMENT | I don't know...
posted by : MetallyChallenged
10/2/2012 2:52:44 PM
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The judge seems indifferent to the whole thing, but wouldn't this be like saying, "Pepsi can go ahead and call itself Coke -- I'm sure the market can get these things sorted out."


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COMMENT | New touring name
posted by : The_Bells_of_Lal
10/2/2012 3:02:58 PM
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Geoff Tate - King of the Douches


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COMMENT | No Queensryche
posted by : frank_the_poet
10/2/2012 3:03:42 PM
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Queensryche without Tates voice is not Queensryche, and Tate without the other guys isn`t Queensryche either, so just leave it! Tate can do well with just his own name and the other guys already got a band going, so create something new. Both sides can play all the old songs as much as they like anyway.


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COMMENT | 'RE: No Queensryche'
posted by : Deadsinktohell
10/2/2012 9:28:03 PM
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sorry man, but todd sounds as close to geoff as possible, they sound incredibly similar, and I think most people here would agree that todd even sounds better than geoff. Geoff won't even touch "queen of the ryche" and todd sings if perfectly. If you're basing this on the "fact" that queensryche don't sound the same, you're way off. that and his douche factor leads me to support the real queensryche over this obvious, obvious, obvious cash grab.

Oh, that and the crappy music he has written since Degarmo has left the band.


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COMMENT | Even Chris DeGarmo...
posted by : jonrocks16
10/2/2012 3:11:27 PM
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DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT!


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COMMENT | 'RE: Even Chris DeGarmo...'
posted by : GOD LOVES SLAYER
10/2/2012 3:57:13 PM
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Chris may be just waiting. Why get involved again until the legal things are sorted out.


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COMMENT | It's probably not a good idea but at least it's a new one....
posted by : the beast777
10/2/2012 3:41:11 PM
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The other 3 guys didn't like Geoff Tate being a bully and couldn't stand up for themselves, so they got a new boyfriend with a wig and a square jaw line.
Tate already a douche just gets "douchier" (is that a word?) and hires 3 other submissive people he can order around. They should just reform with all of the members from both bands and call it Doucheryche!!!! Just think of the how much the merchandising alone could make them.


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COMMENT | ..
posted by : heltorne
10/2/2012 3:59:13 PM
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Dennis DeYoung and the Music of Styx. Logical and keeping true


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COMMENT | FUCK BILL FUCK
posted by : TimRipperOwensDayJob
10/2/2012 4:06:11 PM
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Fake Queensryche is the REAL Queensryche.


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COMMENT | #
posted by : i.miss.the.cows
10/2/2012 4:16:09 PM
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I think he should embrace his inner asshole and run with it, go all GG Allin and break wine bottles off in his ass and attack the crowd at his cabernet tastings, dude would be legendary again. And just call his band TAINT!


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COMMENT | -l-
posted by : I Live In My Mom's Basement
10/2/2012 4:22:50 PM
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"LOL, I just farted".


Carl Sagan


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posted by : derpdederp
10/2/2012 4:33:27 PM
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Geoff Fruitcake


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COMMENT | DeGarmo
posted by : monkeytime
10/2/2012 4:48:01 PM
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Maybe Chris DeGarmo will form a 3rd Queensryche, and this will become even more entertaining!


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COMMENT | So..
posted by : monkeytime
10/2/2012 4:50:18 PM
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So if Geoff Tate can form another Queensryche after being fired... maybe I will form another Queensryche as well!

Why not?


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COMMENT | Awful
posted by : monkeytime
10/2/2012 5:11:11 PM
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The samples from Geoff Tate's solo record 'Kings & Thieves' sound absolutely awful. It's 'Dedicated to Chaos' part 2.

Just pure filth. His voice is completely shot.

I hope Tate loses this case!


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COMMENT | Fuck Geoff Taint!
posted by : Riotass666
10/2/2012 5:12:26 PM
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If he could make it on his own, he would certainly just use his own name on his posters. But we all know he cannot succeed as a solo artist. So desperate and sad when band logos and merchandise are more important than the music.

I'm looking forward to the return of the real Queensryche, and fuck Geoff Taint! I spit vigorously across the room at the thought of a Geoff Taint concert with a bunch of guys who take whatever gig they can get.


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COMMENT | #
posted by : rycheskull
10/2/2012 5:25:26 PM
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The judge likes Celine Dion or something bc she clearly dropped the ball by saying both parties can use the name. If Microsoft or Apple fired you, could you go start a company out of your garage & use the name of the corporation that fired you? Fuck no! The QR fans know which side they support, but the average Joe doesn't pay attention & will go to a QR show & bitch about Geoff not being there or vice versa.

P.S. Tracii Gunns desolved his version of L.A. Guns, so there's only one now.


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COMMENT | Geoff Wants $$$
posted by : TexasMetHead
10/2/2012 6:22:10 PM
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What Geoff Tate wants most is bucks in his pockets. With all the crap he has pulled, I'm done with him. No way in hell I'm putting any of my money in his pocket, whatever name he uses. I will shell out bucks to see Queensryche with their new singer, and look forward to seeing what they create. I did see Queensryche in concert last year, had a good time and they were professional. However, they didn't have much of a friendly vibe during the show. Now I know why. They needed to change, and did what needed to be done.


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COMMENT | best way to settle this
posted by : Loud'nHeavy
10/2/2012 6:25:17 PM
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let both Queensryche bands go out on the road and tour for a year and each release a new studio album. Then see which album is better and which band puts on a better live show.


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COMMENT | Another great idea from me!!!!
posted by : the beast777
10/2/2012 6:49:39 PM
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O.k. how about this, Geoff and his band vs. the other 3 guys and their new guy vs. any Queensryche tribute band in a reality show Rhyche Off(patent pending) It's a call in and vote show. Whoever wins keeps the name and the losers have to join Jack Russell in his version of Great White!!!! Win/Win!!!!


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COMMENT | Wait....
posted by : jsaggio
10/2/2012 6:53:26 PM
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Einhorn...finkle...hmmm...EINHORN...FINKLE....einhorn IS finkle...is that a 1984 champeenship ring with a missing stone?


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posted by : EL MENGH
10/2/2012 7:00:27 PM
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I say this bitching between both parties is good for the fans.....lets have both release cds under same name....maybe out of both cds the fans might manage to get 4 or 6 good songs out of 20 LMAO........


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COMMENT | #
posted by : heltorne
10/2/2012 7:11:30 PM
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maybe one can open for another


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COMMENT | 'one can open up for another was a joke'
posted by : heltorne
10/2/2012 10:35:38 PM
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Just noticed all the thumbs down on my above comment. I guess people don't realize me saying one version of Queensryche could open up for the other version of Queensryche at a concert was a joke. hahahaha. I'm picturing it now.


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COMMENT | more embarrassment
posted by : johannes77
10/2/2012 8:49:49 PM
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neither of these bands should be using the name...Tate should be calling his band "the Replacements" and WSJ could use the moniker "The Other Guys and their 2 scabs"


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posted by : RiotAct666
10/2/2012 8:51:15 PM
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DeGarmo is the winner in all of this, He sits back and laughs at them all & what they are going through.


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posted by : Deadsinktohell
10/2/2012 9:33:52 PM
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I don't see why everybody doubts what scott, mike, and ed can pull off here. They obviously prefer the older material, and unless the new release totally sucks, they already have more credibility than geoff does at this point.
He just doesn't fool me, he comes off like a dick in everything that he does, and his solo music sounds a lot like the more recent queensrych stuff, both of which I would consider average. Plus out of the three people I've know that have met him a few times, they just never really cared for him.
However, if geoff can pull off an amazing comeback album and blow me away, i will be the first to admit it. Totally don't see that happening.


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posted by : vitalsign
10/2/2012 10:08:16 PM
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2 versions of QR? Why not? There's currently 2 versions of Styx, 2 versions of Asia, 2 versions of Kiss... oh wait, nevermind.


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posted by : TVT
10/3/2012 7:26:46 AM
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It all goes down to money that comes from publishing. The other guys had always played a minimal role in songwriting while Tate and especially DeGarmo got almost all the credits and money. Now that bands earn much less from record sales than they do by touring they maybe thought they don't depend on Tate that much anymore. It is still a risky move because Tate was the best known member in the band and they must come up with great songs on their own now unless they don't want to lose all the publishing income to outside songwriters. Besides, the whole media circus seems to be all about getting more attention to the band that certainly has seen its best days long time ago.


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COMMENT | He's playing a bar down the street
posted by : JJJB
10/3/2012 8:30:07 AM
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from my house and it's announced as Geoff Tate not Queensryche.

Don't worry we'll still move the pool table out of the way..........

again.


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COMMENT | Things dad used to say...
posted by : bonopeart
10/3/2012 9:15:59 AM
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My dad told me "Never trust a man with a pinkie ring."
Geoff has two. That's enough for me.


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COMMENT | Geoff Tate
posted by : Sharon Tate Baby
10/3/2012 1:03:22 PM
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is obviously a douche and hasn't put out a decent song in about 20 years but I see his point. He is one of the original, founding members of Queensryche. Geoff and Chris DeGarmo wrote all the songs that the current Queensryche band has in their set list. They aren't playing that shit that they helped write since after Promised Land was released. They are playing the hits that Geoff and Chris wrote and making money off them. They are little more than a tribute band.


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COMMENT | shit circus
posted by : brovarnm
10/3/2012 4:14:42 PM
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The band that sounds the most like the first 4 or 5 records should get to have the name!


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COMMENT | Best Picture
posted by : RedZombie
10/3/2012 4:50:37 PM
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he could use. That is just so lame it's hilarious. Get outta here Taint with your fake QR.


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posted by : saskmetal
10/9/2012 12:12:38 AM
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To sharontatebaby,
You must be a casual fan. If you owned the CDs and dug into the booklets you would see that there is enough Wilton songs to do full concerts. He wrote almost half of the music on their best 4 Records. And remember Tate cant play guitar or any instrument besides sax. He never wrote any of rthe music. Only lyrics on a good chunk of songs and some of the vocal melodies. There are three original members left. They are responsible for more of the sound of the band than Tate. Proof is the listening experience on his last four solo Records, three of those under the qr name who he wrote with outside writers.


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COMMENT | Holy Shit....
posted by : ctrn
10/15/2012 10:01:16 PM
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He makes it seem so effortless! Nice work!


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