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QUEENSRŸCHE's LA TORRE Says 'People Are Shocked To Hear' 'Queen Of The Reich' Performed Well - Dec. 13, 2012
The Todd La Torre-fronted version of QUEENSRŸCHE has finished recording the drums for its new album at London Bridge Studios in Seattle, Washington with producer James "Jimbo" Barton — the man who engineered and mixed the band's classic 1988 LP, "Operation: Mindcrime", and its 1990 follow-up, "Empire", and co-produced 1994's "Promised Land". The rest of the music and vocals will be laid down over the coming weeks at several different facilities on the West Coast.

In a posting on his official Facebook page, La Torre — who is also a member of Florida melodic metallers CRIMSON GLORY — wrote earlier today (Thursday, December 13): "Yes, QUEENSRŸCHE fans are very intelligent people, and this is why the majority go to QueensrycheOfficial.com for all of the latest news having to do with those that WROTE THE MUSIC for the last 30 years. That is the reality.

"Thank goodness I'm not a hired gun with only a voice. When I write a song, I can actually play all of the instruments.

"QUEENSRŸCHE has a new dynamic that it never had before. The cherry on top: We have the strongest artist management company in the business, the world-class producer/engineer James Barton on our new record, a wonderful new booking agency, QUEENSRŸCHE's crew and touring manager, have since shared the stage with the loved Pamela Moore, and re-establishing global contacts that are eager to book us. If that isn't a testament to what the majority of people and peers deem as the most valued version of today's QUEENSRŸCHE, then I don't know what is.

"Another reality is that we are moving forward with a new album while playing material off of the first five albums, which includes the EP.

"'Queen Of The Reich': Yes, people do stare speechless, because they are shocked to hear the song performed well, a song that 'broke out' this legendary pioneering band.

"Shame on anyone to deny the music that garnished fans in the first place and still resonates 30 years later.

"I couldn't be more proud to front my favorite band, sing with passion, and take time at every show to acknowledge every person I can.

"QUEENSRŸCHE is rising once again, respecting the fans first and foremost, which is why we (the band) all interact with the fans...a far cry from so many other artists' social sites.

"We all thank you all for embracing the change and positive new energy of the band, music, and growth. Thank you so much!"

Singer Geoff Tate, who was fired from QUEENSRŸCHE in June after fronting the group for three decades, recently sought to prevent his former bandmates from touring and operating under the QUEENSRŸCHE name without him. While ruling against Tate, the presiding judge determined that there was no legal hurdle in Tate also using the name with an all-new lineup of musicians. "I don't see any reason that Mr. Tate can't have the benefit, if he gets other members, of whatever name he uses of using the brand," Superior Court Judge Carol A. Schapira said during the July 13 court hearing. "I think [doing that would be] inherently confusing, although I'm sure the market can get these things sorted out," she added.

Asked by Rock Show Critique in a recent interview with why QUEENSRŸCHE rarely performs "Queen Of The Reich" live despite it being one of the band's most popular tunes, Tate said, "Actually, it's not very popular at all. It's funny, actually — a lot of people don't know about that song. A lot of people don't care about that song. It's an early song that was written and it shows. It's funny the reaction you get, because it's a lot of blank stares. In fact, it's the same stare you get when you play a new song that nobody's heard before. People just aren't that familiar with it. Given there are a few hardcore fans that might know that song, or like that song, and know what it is, but the majority of the people there don't. So it's not really a song that I enjoy singing, strictly because, lyrically, it's pretty adolescent. It was the first song written thirty-some-odd years ago and obviously I cannot relate to it anymore. I think, for performance, it's always best for the performer to really believe in the material they're singing or playing. If you don't believe in it, it's really difficult to get behind a song, do it well and do it at a level that comes across with any kind of believability. For me, I honestly can't relate to the whole dungeons-and-dragons lyrical content of that song; it's really cartoonish and juvenile to me."

Geoff Tate's QUEENSRŸCHE will hit the road next year to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the group's epic 1988 release, "Operation: Mindcrime".

Tate's QUEENSRŸCHE also includes bassist Rudy Sarzo (OZZY OSBOURNE, QUIET RIOT, WHITESNAKE, DIO), drummer Bobby Blotzer (RATT), guitarist Kelly Gray (MYTH) and keyboardist Randy Gane (MYTH).



Pictured below: QUEENSRŸCHE in the studio with James "Jimbo" Barton (Photo credit: Savoia Photography Live)

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posted by : Hayden
12/13/2012 8:04:54 AM
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Reactive or not, this is a great statement.


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COMMENT | 'Arnel Pineda 2.0'
posted by : CarlWillat
12/13/2012 9:02:25 AM
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Way to stay classy Karaoke McGee.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''Arnel Pineda 2.0'''
posted by : Evil_Twin
12/13/2012 11:31:02 AM
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Carl "I'll post a reply to the top comment even thought it has nothing to do with what was said because no one gives a rat's ass about my irrelavent bullshit when I leave a new comment at the bottom like everyone else" Willat


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''Arnel Pineda 2.0'''
posted by : bongwarrior
12/14/2012 4:19:24 AM
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Shill.


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posted by : ryan05
12/13/2012 8:05:41 AM
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Same bands fronted by different singers is so fuckin' stupid, aka LA Guns, Great White, now QR. Hang it up!


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posted by : loser
12/13/2012 8:07:48 AM
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... no dan nelson = no nelson ...


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COMMENT | @ryan05
posted by : Hayden
12/13/2012 8:08:27 AM
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Surely this is an obvious attempt to troll, yes? If you're actually being serious, need I provide you with a list of bands that have continued on strongly with new vocalists?


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COMMENT | 'RE: @ryan05'
posted by : BabyKiller
12/13/2012 9:13:43 AM
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He is talking about simultaneously active bands like the examples he gives.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: @ryan05'''
posted by : Evil_Twin
12/13/2012 9:51:40 AM
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Thanks for clearing that up babykiller. It was really impossible to understand the meaning of his words without your clarification. Hey, as long as you're here, could you translate this for me?

Fuck you and the Geoff Tate horse you rode in on!


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: ''''RE: @ryan05'''''''
posted by : BabyKiller
12/13/2012 12:48:13 PM
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What's up Evil_"I'll post a reply to the top comment even thought it has nothing to do with what was said because no one gives a rat's ass about my irrelavent bullshit when I leave a new comment at the bottom like everyone else" Twin?


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: ''''RE: ''''''''RE: @ryan05'''''''''''''''
posted by : Evil_Twin
12/13/2012 4:54:50 PM
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There is no T at the end of "though" you dumbass!


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: ''''RE: ''''''''RE: ''''''''''''''''RE: @ryan05'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
posted by : BabyKiller
12/13/2012 5:06:24 PM
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Agree, only a dumbass would make that mistake. Oh wait. You do know that was a copy/paste of your comment, right? hahaha Can you be a bigger loser? Can't wait to find out.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Babykiller dumbfuck'
posted by : Evil_Twin
12/13/2012 9:20:57 PM
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No Shit Sherlock! You're kinda slow on the uptake, aren't ya? I guess I shouldn't be surprised that someone who still thinks Geoff Tate can sing would have such a hard time assimilating the obvious!


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posted by : DieHardTheHunter
12/13/2012 8:14:50 AM
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Can't wait to see these guys Live and hear those songs performed properly with La Torre.

Tate should just stfu the more he talks the more damage he does to his reputation.

The New and Improved QR with La torre will let the music do the talking and the live shows will speak for themselves.


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posted by : Dr. Unk
12/13/2012 8:17:51 AM
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Zing! Can't wait for the douchebags response.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Gavsterino1
12/13/2012 8:22:40 AM
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You already have


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posted by : BillyM67
12/13/2012 8:18:48 AM
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Tate's version will probably get more press at first because of all of the names he hired, but in the end I think that not only will this version be the best version, and the only one to survive, but I really believe that Todd is going to help take them into the future in a strong way. He's a very talented guy.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Gavsterino1
12/13/2012 8:24:44 AM
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you don't know that for sure. What happens if Geoff Tates queensryche make a great album. Just wait and see what happens.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: #'''
posted by : Scatter
12/13/2012 10:20:00 AM
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If Geoff makes a great album they'll do when they always do; listen to it privately and deny it on the Internet.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Scatter'
posted by : Evil_Twin
12/13/2012 10:45:00 AM
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I see you're taking up Gino C's line of bullshit. We're all just secretly listening to Geoff Tate's new "music" on the internet and denying it. Oh yes, he is a drug we can't resist. We sneak around listening to how he rolls because we luv it. It's wot we do!

You stupid fucks are a whole new breed of delusional.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: Scatter'''
posted by : 1GRITVOX
12/13/2012 12:11:06 PM
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1000% AGREED!!!


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: ''''RE: Scatter'''''''
posted by : ParasiteLost
12/13/2012 10:04:11 PM
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The odds for Geoff Tate creating even a listenable album ever again are nonexistent.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: ''''RE: #'''''''
posted by : bongwarrior
12/13/2012 6:54:12 PM
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Shill.


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posted by : The Judge
12/13/2012 8:19:51 AM
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I've respected La Torre up to this point. He's let Geoff and the others slag each other off in the press and retained a dignified silence. Even Geoff has refrained from having a go at him. Singers union and all that.

I didn't think La Torre would be the first one to break that chain of events. Not very classy for a guy who's been in the band just a few months.


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posted by : Deadsinktohell
12/13/2012 8:29:33 AM
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yeah, you ever read any quotes from Dave Mustaine or the like, this is pretty soft. He's just stating the obvious, and there can't be any fault with that. Todd single handedly made me interested in a new queensryche recording. That has not happened since Empire was going to come out. His performances are fucking incredible. The clips I've heard of the new stuff blow away the last six recordings. Vest is re-hashing Operation Mindcrime again, (ps, can't wait until next year, it will be the 26th year anniversary of OM!!!!), while the real band is recording a new album and looking forward. there is no comparison, dead horse vs. fresh meat and integrity.


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posted by : Gavsterino1
12/13/2012 8:28:32 AM
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Really Mr La Torre hasn't been in the band long enough to be this arrogant.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Dr. Unk
12/13/2012 8:47:22 AM
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Is that you Geoff?


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posted by : DieHardTheHunter
12/13/2012 8:31:26 AM
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I bet we won't see La Torre walking at a snails pace around the stage with a glass of boxed wine in his hand.

Tate has lost the Fire he once had..... it doesn't matter who he gets to play with him.



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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Deadsinktohell
12/13/2012 8:34:09 AM
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based on all his recent interviews, I doubt he ever had the fire. Even if he did, all he has are hired guns and a vendetta.


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posted by : 6stringking
12/13/2012 8:32:47 AM
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I think La Torre should stick with a good thing and read statements twice before releasing....He is the new singer but the battle is between the other members and douchebag Taint Vest man. Be the bigger man and let the other be the sinking ship you have nothing to prove, your already the singer of the real QUEENSRYCHE.....


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COMMENT | hmm
posted by : ozzyslovechild
12/13/2012 8:32:47 AM
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hmm,, lemme see. the good guitarist and the singer are gone? i can't wait to not listen to or see them!
:)olc



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COMMENT | YEA
posted by : halfordsleatherhat
12/13/2012 8:37:33 AM
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This guy can sing. Looking forward to hearing the album


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COMMENT | so they are shocked watching this Alpha Tiger live performance
posted by : DARKBASS
12/13/2012 8:39:37 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvxMw1qZA-k

I am greatly looking forward to Alpha Tiger's next album!!!

You will hear of this band soon if you have not already!



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COMMENT | 'RE: so they are shocked watching this Alpha Tiger live performance'
posted by : Sickboy666
12/14/2012 6:57:13 AM
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Wrong strategy, dude.


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COMMENT | Go Todd
posted by : Gondor
12/13/2012 8:54:12 AM
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It's great they're playing the stuff fans want to hear instead of Wot We Do, How We Roll, Say u Luv It horseshit


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COMMENT | Delusional as fuck...
posted by : Big Dad-E
12/13/2012 8:58:21 AM
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NOBODY gives a shit about this version of Queensryche. Good for you, La Torre...you are good at belting out a 30 year old song by a band that is recognizable only with the original lead singer.

Not "sticking up" for Geoff Tate, but this is lame. Good luck, Queensryche 2k13...you're gonna need it.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Delusional as fuck...'
posted by : Deadsinktohell
12/13/2012 10:50:54 AM
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what's up vest?! The masses have spoken on this subject for the last four months, and the vest, I mean the rest of us think that this is going to kick ass, and they keep proving us right.


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posted by : UlverShuggah
12/13/2012 8:59:54 AM
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"Another reality is that we are moving forward with a new album while playing material off of the first five albums, which includes the EP."

That is precisely what i wanted to hear!

The Real 'Ryche have sat back and let taint dig his grave, but you have to understand that at some stage they're gonna have to ramp up the PR machine - because the waters have certainly been muddied by taint and his camp... and lets not forget this is just statements from Todd's facebook page - and i for one believe you should be able to say what ever the fuck you want on your own facebook page!

Looking forward to the album! All Hail The New 'Ryche!


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posted by : Meshusikthescapehero
12/13/2012 9:04:53 AM
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In my Jeph Taint cover band, QOTR is only song we play all night.
I sing it in many different styles. You will love it.

www.jephtaint.com


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COMMENT | So what?
posted by : BabyKiller
12/13/2012 9:10:21 AM
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Roger Daltrey's vocals sounded like crap last night. Should The Who replace him for someone that can "Performed Well" those songs? When rock bands became sport franchises where as soon a member can't perform like he used to he becomes irrelevant.


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COMMENT | 'So what?'
posted by : Get up and make it work
12/13/2012 10:34:19 AM
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Daltry is also 70 years old. Even at that age, he still sings better than Tater Tot.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''So what?'''
posted by : Riotass666
12/13/2012 5:06:35 PM
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Roger Daltrey has taken care of himself, and no 70 year old singer can match him. He is setting a new standard and he's the last guy standing vocally from his generation.


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COMMENT | Tour with Styx...
posted by : BLSDMF
12/13/2012 9:10:44 AM
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Queensryche will never see the arenas again. Both versions. They'll be touring the bar scene, county fairs, and block parties with Styx in the U.S. Probably have better luck overseas. And that judge sucked. Neither side should be able to move on with the name Queensryche - the two bands are Rising West and Geof Tate. They're all a bunch of turkeys. La Torre should only open his mouth to sing...


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COMMENT | @Big Dad-E
posted by : Hayden
12/13/2012 9:12:00 AM
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Really? Nobody? So, you're saying that halfordsleatherhat and DieHardTheHunter each don't care, despite clearly stating that they are looking forward to this lineup's future output? And I guess, in spite of his positive words, BillyM67 mustn't have any interest at all? And all of enthusiastic posts in previous Queensryche articles must just be hollow words? And I guess my personal excitement must be illusory, since you've asserted that "NOBODY gives a shit"?

Wake up sir, madam, daddy - whatever you are. The response to this band's progress has been mostly positive, and there is clearly widespread anticipation amongst the metal community in regards to their next move. To deny this is idiocy. How ignorant must you be to actually make statements like this? To say that nobody's interested is to deny a simple truth, and refuse to observe and reason coherently.


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COMMENT | 'RE: @Big Dad-E'
posted by : Big Dad-E
12/13/2012 10:59:41 AM
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The response of a bunch of over-reactionary, basement-dwelling trolls is NOBODY in my book. Queensryche, sans Tate is irrelevant and with Tate minimally relevant. This version of Queensryche is a glorified cover band. If they want to carry on under a new moniker and create some amazing NEW music, by all means...but hanging your hat on the ability to bust out someone else's songs? Lame.


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COMMENT | 'RE: @Big Dad-E'
posted by : Deadsinktohell
12/13/2012 11:00:14 AM
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Dude, I'm say'n! These guys are like the bagdad bobs of the Ryche threads. "I have a million thubs down on my post, I'm proving my point by not proving it..." jesus, the tate family really missed their calling, politics you guys, run for state senator or something where that kind of bullshit flies day and night. On this site, we use videos and past quotations and other kinds of evidence to prove something, not just anecdotally say something and hope you repeat it a million times to the point of ad nauseam. Watch the video guys, you'd have to go back 25 years to hear vest sing that song with any kind of conviction. - - again another form of evidence. Also, notice that lack of crappy saxophone playing and butchered guitar solos.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: @Big Dad-E'''
posted by : Deadsinktohell
12/13/2012 11:01:52 AM
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Big Dad -e, give it up man, everybody knows this rocks. give my best to vest.


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posted by : Voice Of Sanitry
12/13/2012 9:13:08 AM
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Hey look everyone! Brand new Blabbermouth user names appeared to trash the real Queensryche!

FrireReaverX, Destructivesounds, MisterMish, Von Helsing, TVT et al have morphed into different losers again!

Who saw that coming?


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posted by : Evil_Twin
12/13/2012 9:37:55 AM
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I noticed that too. Look at all the brand new user names who sound JUST LIKE tate employees. They've got the entire team on top secret double emergency elert! hahaha


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: #'''
posted by : Scatter
12/13/2012 10:23:48 AM
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/yawn...


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: ''''RE: #'''''''
posted by : bongwarrior
12/13/2012 6:55:02 PM
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Shill.


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posted by : Hipster Trash
12/13/2012 9:21:24 AM
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And I'm shocked that I'm actually excited to hear a new Queensryche album for once.


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posted by : Double Shit-Talkin Jive
12/13/2012 9:22:47 AM
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Queensryche 2013 is gonna electrocute Geoff's ass into obscurity


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posted by : MrEplayR
12/13/2012 9:25:12 AM
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Last week I saw a Queensryche tribute band "Jet City". They played "Queen of the Reich" pretty well too.


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posted by : zappafrank
12/13/2012 10:58:59 AM
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Dude, that's not very nice to call Geoff's motley crew a tribute band. How insulting! :P


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COMMENT | Dear Todd
posted by : Abyss_of_Blood
12/13/2012 9:30:17 AM
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Now would be the time to be humble... not a pretentious dick.

In the history of rock singers, you will be nothing more than a footnote.

The "real" Queensryche is dead.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Dear Todd'
posted by : Deadsinktohell
12/13/2012 11:03:53 AM
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Dear Abyss of Blood. Todd can say whatever he wants. In the history of singers, you will still be a troll. love, Deadsinktohell


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COMMENT | They do sound awesome
posted by : dirtyLarry
12/13/2012 9:35:53 AM
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Blows that Tate sax metal out of the water.


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COMMENT | Todd 'The Warning' LaTorre
posted by : Evil_Twin
12/13/2012 9:45:19 AM
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In my mind there is only one Queensryche with a new singer and a delusional ex-singer going around trying make up whatever fake ass bullshit he can to keep himself in the limelight.

I support Todd and the original Queensryche members in their quest to rise from the ashes and make Queensryche a respected powerhouse in music once again!


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COMMENT | I'm on Queensryche's side on this fight, BUT...
posted by : Reginald0
12/13/2012 9:52:24 AM
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...I think is too early in the process to La Torre show the first signs of big-mouth-inflated-ego singer's disease.
If he's really an intelligent man, he should concentrate on the new album recording, sing the old songs as best as he can, and observe carefully the other people reactions about, cause statements like this one can damage more than fix what is already a mess of a situation.


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COMMENT | Hail the real Queensryche!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by : RiotAct666
12/13/2012 9:52:40 AM
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Bring on the new CD and back the metal to the loyal fans!!!!!!!!


Screw Jeffery Taint , That wine sipping , Vest owning , Loves to be spit on by everyone when he performs live, and last the biggest delusional jacka** of them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He & his scabs and hacks cover band are gonna be destroyed!!!!!!!!


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COMMENT | 'RE: Hail the real Queensryche!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'
posted by : Evil_Twin
12/13/2012 10:59:11 AM
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That a boy Luther!


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COMMENT | 'RE: Hail the real Queensryche!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'
posted by : Big Dad-E
12/13/2012 11:12:36 AM
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The only time you have a strong opinion is when it coincides with which way the wind is blowing. Dolt.


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posted by : Dharma
12/13/2012 9:59:13 AM
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More awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNOYcyzbXec

Todd can say what he wants. He's got the pipes to back it up, and he actually takes care of himself, unlike Tate.


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posted by : Scatter
12/13/2012 1:18:16 PM
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If by "takes care of himeself" you mean he's probably 10-15 years younger then you're right.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: #'''
posted by : JJJB
12/13/2012 1:41:23 PM
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No..... he means he shaves his armpits and waxes his dick..... duh.......


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: #'''
posted by : bongwarrior
12/13/2012 6:55:35 PM
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Shill.


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COMMENT | Here we go...
posted by : Word2YourMuffler
12/13/2012 10:03:06 AM
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This is gonna fire up Camp Tate. I see this thread going to 200 comments easily.

I honestly liked that the real QR was staying out of the drama and just focusing on the new record; leaving Jeff and company to do all the ugly PR work. Guess Todd snapped? Dude, focus on making a kick ass album and let the music do the shit-talking.

Good morning Mishy, Reaver, DSounds and all the rest of you. Hope you had a cup of Seattle's Best, warmed up your typing fingers and have directives from Jeff/Susan in hand. This should get interesting (a.k.a. stupid).


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12/13/2012 10:10:11 AM
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What a douchebag. Its one thing for the fanboys around here to say this shit but its another whole level of low and disrespect for Todd to say this.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : bongwarrior
12/13/2012 6:55:52 PM
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Shill.


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COMMENT | Big Dad-E
posted by : Slappywhite
12/13/2012 10:13:10 AM
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Perhaps you haven't read the HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of positive comments for the REAL Queensryche since the shit went down? And that's just on a fuckin' metal website - there are thousands and thousands of people out there who don't even read Blabbermouth (gasp!).

Fuck you.

Rise of the 'Ryche!


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COMMENT | FUCK GEOFF TATE
posted by : hang-the-bastard
12/13/2012 10:20:08 AM
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If you haven't seen ROKLAHOMA.. Watch it, or try.. Geoff Tate tells the crowd that they suck, and that it's the best it's gonna get.. total fucking DOUCHEBAG.. And watching him sing is painful.. the dude is singing like he's a villain in some disney production, and why is HE TOUCHING HIMSELF!? It pisses me off.. you can tell how irritated the band is when he starts talking.. Hes the only guy in the band wearing more makeup than Dee Snider and Alice Cooper combined.. The guy just doesn't fit anymore.. Todd is gonna kill it, everynight, without the theatrics, and yeah.. Stoked to fucking see these guys now.. OHHHH

And before, QR tickets in seattle.. 200 dollars... I'm sure they'll be alot less without all the stage bullshit Tate HAAAAD to have..


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posted by : shakey27
12/13/2012 10:22:17 AM
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Again I am the only one that listens with my ears instead on a dislike for one side or the other. I could give two shits about who's right or wrong in their legal battle but as far as this LaTorres singing goes, for this band and these songs he is average at best. I would rather go see a QR with GT not singing as well as he did 20 years ago than what is basically a glorified tribute band with an average singer. This guy reminds me of a Blaze Bailey or Tim "Ripper" Owens and how well did that work out for Priest and Maiden. Neither camp will get my $ because both will suck without the other. And as far as his statement about the guys who "wrote the music performing these songs", writing credits on entire catalog include Jackson-9 total, Rockenfeld-16 most on the last three albums none on the ep and the first two albums, Wilton 35, Tate-97 whether it's music or only lyrics it isa huge part of the writing and he wrote all the harmonies equated with the lyrics, an De Garmo-61 with none obviously on the last 3 albums. It looks to me like the guys that wrote all the classics songs are no longer in the band, good luck.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : broham
12/13/2012 5:02:34 PM
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you're stupid. that is all


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COMMENT | #
posted by : rubthebuddha
12/13/2012 10:22:46 AM
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I'm on Todd's side, but he should leave the arguments amongst the old members. Sing well, write excellent new music, and let that music do the talking.


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COMMENT | I dunno Todd,
posted by : Battle_Magic
12/13/2012 10:26:04 AM
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Your vocals are pretty good, but I still think Tate does the vest version!


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COMMENT | 'RE: I dunno Todd,'
posted by : Deadsinktohell
12/13/2012 11:10:49 AM
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nice!


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COMMENT | @Scatter
posted by : Dharma
12/13/2012 10:26:04 AM
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The only douchebag is Geoff Tate.

He's spent months slagging his former band and lies in every goddamn interview he gives, since he's so drunk these days he can't keep his story straight from one day to the next.

One interview, he says he expected to get fired for over a year, the next he says the band blindsided him and it all came out of the blue. One day, he'll say that he hates the chunk-chunk-chunk style of metal guitars, the next he'll praise Kelly Gray's fat fingered chunk-chunk-chunk guitar style. In the past he's called Michael Wilton the sound of QR and praised him for being a big reason for the band's music. Now, Tate says Wilton never contributed shit and that he's lazy.

Tate wouldn't know reality if it walked up to him and knocked the Insania out of his hand and took his vest. Todd LaTorre is more than entitled to call out Tate's bullshit since: a) Tate is insulting QR's fans by calling them stupid and/or uninformed about what's going on, and b) Todd's not a party to the lawsuit anyway, so if he wants to fire back, he can.


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COMMENT | '@Scatter'
posted by : Get up and make it work
12/13/2012 10:46:46 AM
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Great post Dharma.

Another point I'd like the Tate Camp to address:

Tate's claim to the name Queensryche is based on their belief that the singer and lyricist is the "name" and "draw" to the band and everyone else in the band are merely second hand lackeys. If he's the almighty alpha dog, why has Tate's solo CD only sold 2000 copies and his band is playing to 100 people every night?

The real Queensryche is fronted by Todd and they are making killer music. The kind of music that made us fans of the band. The real fanbase are begging for old school music and we are finally going to get it.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''@Scatter'''
posted by : JHill
12/13/2012 4:13:08 PM
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When the new album hits, it'll probably sell 10 to 15k in the first week. Taint's version might have a song written by then. Maybe. Won't be too hard to resolve the lawsuit when it's finally heard.


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posted by : saskmetal
12/13/2012 10:33:36 AM
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Good post Dharma.

The truth is the Tate entourage is in full force thanks to susan's directives today. No point trying to talk sense about the situation. In one ear, out the other. But isn't that Scatter a real cunt?


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Scatter
12/13/2012 11:02:16 AM
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I guess that the Rockenfield, Jackson and Wilpon families are running low of cash. Oh well, maybe once they get a few gigs and manage to pay for a full time recording studio they might have a couple of bucks left over to make their weekly payments to their trolls here.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: #'''
posted by : bongwarrior
12/13/2012 6:56:19 PM
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Shill.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : bongwarrior
12/13/2012 3:37:39 PM
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Ha ha ha ha Saskmetal you just made me spit coffee on my keyboard. Thanks man, superb chuckle.


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COMMENT | #
posted by : saskmetal
12/13/2012 10:36:21 AM
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Scatter the cunt calls Todd a douchebag, when Tate won douchebag of the year a few posts back. I posted that and over 60 regulars gave it horns up. Funny thing is not one thing Todd said was bullshit. He didn't even really attack Tate and family they way they deserve.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Scatter
12/13/2012 11:04:10 AM
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You can teach a man to sing but you can't teach him to have class. Todd is looking for like Chris "Izzy" cole every day.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: #'''
posted by : Evil_Twin
12/13/2012 11:25:29 AM
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Izzy Cole brought new life to Steel Dragon! No one can deny that Bobby Beers was phenomenal in his day, but he lost his edge. And let's face it, the guy just didn't want to tour anymore. A band needs to tour to stay relevant. I just wish they would have let Izzy write on the new album the way that Todd is contributing to the new QUEENSRŸCHE, then maybe he would have stuck around to take Steal Dragon to the top!


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: #'''
posted by : bongwarrior
12/13/2012 6:56:41 PM
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Shill.


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COMMENT | Well..
posted by : neon knights
12/13/2012 10:36:48 AM
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Todd certainly came out swinging. I say from now on you 1) work your ass off completing the new album. I like the teaser.. 2) keep your mouth quiet like you had been doing 3) get your asses to Wichita so I can see you guys live again..2003 is a long time ago. And 4) put NM156 back in the set!

Hope to see you next year!!


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COMMENT | 'RE: Well..'
posted by : Deadsinktohell
12/13/2012 12:29:29 PM
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NM156 is great, would love to hear that in the set!


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COMMENT | All hail the Ryche!!!!
posted by : Ms.666
12/13/2012 11:01:04 AM
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I cant even begin to explain the eargasm the Queensryches EP gives me to this day. I jam "Queen of the Ryche" in my car when I need that extra surge of adrenaline or Im pissed off and need a release. Im really suprised I havent gotten a speeding ticket cause my foot gets heavy on that gas petal let me tell you!!

I have always thought that Geoff was the only one who could belt that out.... not the case.

With all the Dynasty soap opera shit that has swirled with this band latley, its nice to see them moving on. I will not form a judgment till I see thm live with the new singer but with the above snippet of Queen of the Ryche Im liking what Im hearing so far.


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COMMENT | karaoke's ass?
posted by : JOHNNY SNOT
12/13/2012 11:06:02 AM
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what's worse?.....geoff and his shitband of scabs trying to play the classic qryche stuff, or geoff trying to sing it?

win win for the rising westryche!


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COMMENT | My point is...
posted by : Big Dad-E
12/13/2012 11:07:40 AM
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Queensryche is done. No Tate...No DeGarmo...no way. Call yourself something else and go rock. I couldn't care less in the Ryche vs. Tate bullshit. Apparently all of you think that you are "in the know" because you read Blabbermouth.


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COMMENT | 'RE: My point is...'
posted by : Evil_Twin
12/13/2012 11:17:47 AM
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It's funny how it was still Queensryche when DeGarmo left and it was still Queensryche when Tate and his trailor park buddies were writing and recording albums without the original members, but now that his bullshit has been kicked to the curb, suddenly you say it's not Queensryche? Well guess what, QUEENSRŸCHE is not done, they're recording a kick ass new album right now and there's not a fucking thing you can do about it!


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: My point is...'''
posted by : Scatter
12/13/2012 11:26:16 AM
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When did Geoff record a Queensryche album without any of the original members? Reinvent the past much?


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: ''''RE: My point is...'''''''
posted by : Evil_Twin
12/13/2012 11:46:31 AM
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I didn't say "any" so stop trying to twist my words around, you don't have the IQ.

I was referring to the guitarist who recently came forward about playing all over Mindcrime 2. He also said that most of Eddie's bass tracks were used although Tate & Clan claimed they were the "producers" takes. And this is just one instance that we know of.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: ''''RE: My point is...'''''''
posted by : bongwarrior
12/13/2012 6:57:10 PM
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Shill.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: My point is...'''
posted by : Big Dad-E
12/13/2012 11:31:18 AM
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I actually don't care...not sure why you all feel so passionately about it. When you take a marginally popular band and remove the marginally popular components what does that leave you? Not "Queensryche"...it's something else.


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COMMENT | LOW EXPECTATIONS
posted by : destructivesounds
12/13/2012 11:13:38 AM
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What else?



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COMMENT | 'RE: LOW EXPECTATIONS'
posted by : Deadsinktohell
12/13/2012 12:32:36 PM
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where's vest's new queensryche album? when does that come out? oh, that's right, in two years it will be time for the 27th anniversary tour of Operation Mindcrime, better get ready now.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: LOW EXPECTATIONS'''
posted by : Scatter
12/13/2012 1:02:37 PM
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He just released an album a few months ago. You should be worrying about the other band getting signed to a label before you start worrying about Tate releasing a second album in a year's time.


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posted by : bongwarrior
12/13/2012 6:57:49 PM
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COMMENT | Lead Singer changes
posted by : opeth_66
12/13/2012 11:15:20 AM
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The argument that a new lead singer constitutes a cover band is a tired and poor argument. Why would it be any different if any of the members changed? Wouldn't the replacement be expected to perform the previous members parts and potentially play in the same style? Is this now a cover band? Here are a few bands that have had to replace their lead singer with an outside singer that I believe that we can all agree aren't cover bands:
Black Sabbath----Ronnie James Dio
Deep Purple-----David Coverdale
Van Halen-----Sammy Hagar
Iron Maiden----Bruce Dickenson
These bands went on to create great original music that has stood the test of time and in some cases is the music that the band is known for. Intent is potentially what separates the classification, (Journey, Foreigner, Quiet Riot), but who's to decide when the majority of the band no-longer has the right to perform under the name that they created?

With Regard to Todd, it may not be a great idea to get in the middle of this war on words, but in his defense, he's taking the brunt of it and it has been pretty unfair for him. We don't even see all of the slagging and negative feedback that he's receiving...I think he's been a class act so far in the midst of incredibly unfair expectations and undeserved verbal abuse. I'm excited to see them moving forward and am happy for the guys in the band.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Lead Singer changes'
posted by : Steve N' Roses
12/13/2012 11:18:46 AM
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great point. don't forget arguably the biggest one of all,AC/DC


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COMMENT | 'RE: Lead Singer changes'
posted by : Scatter
12/13/2012 11:28:43 AM
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How many band lost both their lead singer and lead guitarist (who combined wrote the majority of their best songs BTW) and went on to be successful?


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: Lead Singer changes'''
posted by : Big Dad-E
12/13/2012 11:40:27 AM
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Bad examples...

Let's imagine AC/DC without Bon Scott AND Angus Young or Sabbath without Ozzy AND Tony Iommi or Van Halen without David Lee Roth AND Eddie Van Halen.

Also, the catalog of music and legacy of all of your examples are FAR SUPERIOR to that of "Queensryche"...

There are barely enough tunes to fill a 15 track "Greatest Hits" album versus those other examples of bands having a plethora of classic tracks.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: Lead Singer changes'''
posted by : opeth_66
12/13/2012 11:58:58 AM
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Great point. I'm not arguing that they will be successful with original music. I'm just debating that the term "Cover-Band" doesn't apply. I'd like to think that both Geoff Tate and Queensryche will be sucessful writting new music. I think that we'll find out. It may even be unfair to measure Geoff's recent release against the coming release from Queensryche since it was mapped out prior to the break-up and in the end it really isn't a contest. Geoff is and was a great singer. I wish him the best and I'd argue that he's a great entertainer. They will both have to perform as songwritters to create music that means something or makes an impact in our lives.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: Lead Singer changes'''
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12/13/2012 6:58:08 PM
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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: Lead Singer changes'''
posted by : Pictures of Home
12/14/2012 12:49:24 AM
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Deep Purple when they lost Gillan and then Blackmore; Mk IV with Bolin and Coverdale was excellent but imploded due to drugs and non-music related matters...

Genesis lost Steve Hackett and then Peter Gabriel and somehow survived.....

Very hard, not impossible....



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COMMENT | 'RE: Lead Singer changes'
posted by : bongwarrior
12/13/2012 3:46:05 PM
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Don't forget Pink Floyd, they've had at least 3 singers.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: Lead Singer changes'''
posted by : Scatter
12/13/2012 8:04:33 PM
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Well to be fair, they dropped their first singer (Syd Barrett) in 1968 after the first album, years before they hit it big. David Gilmore, Syd's "replacement" joined the band in 1967. Both David Gilmore and Roger Waters shared singing duties until Waters left the band in '85 at which point Gilmore remained as the only singer. Its not like they brought in a new face and voice that fans had to get used to.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: ''''RE: Lead Singer changes'''''''
posted by : Evil_Twin
12/13/2012 10:42:14 PM
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I think they got rid of Syd because he basically went totally insane. Kind of ironic! It just didn't take them 30 years to figure it out and there was no internet for people to say Syd is the "Voice of Floyd" even after he lost his voice. hahaha


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: ''''RE: Lead Singer changes'''''''
posted by : Pictures of Home
12/14/2012 12:54:43 AM
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@Scatter

Well to be fucking fair? Syd was the genius behind Pink Floyd, composer, singer guitarist....it took a long time for Floyd to find its feet again, but they did eventually and it was a TEAM effort.....it was only when Waters too control did things go pear shaped...sort of like TATE THE TWAT did in the last decade or so

When Gilmour (not Gilmore NUMBSKULL) took control the albums were competent and enjoyable but hardly earth shattering...and he had outside writers (at least they weren't Kelly Gray and Randy Gane)

The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, though not everyone's cup of tea, is a landmark album in the history of rock music


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: ''''RE: Lead Singer changes'''''''
posted by : bongwarrior
12/14/2012 4:17:40 AM
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So they've had at least 3 singers then, like I said. Shill.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Lead Singer changes'
posted by : bigsled
12/13/2012 7:12:25 PM
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None of those singers were " clone karoke singers " ..


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COMMENT | 'RE: Lead Singer changes'
posted by : bigsled
12/13/2012 7:13:46 PM
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None of those singers were " clone karoke singers " like Toddy , LOL


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COMMENT | #
posted by : Dharma
12/13/2012 11:17:57 AM
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"Oh well, maybe once they get a few gigs and manage to pay for a full time recording studio they might have a couple of bucks left over to make their weekly payments to their trolls here."

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More projection than an IMAX, dude. Also, you've proven you've got no idea how professional albums are recorded. Multiple studios are a common practice, since you go to the places that offer the best venue for what you need done.

But hey, if swinging from Tate's wine-soaked nutsack is what keeps you in shape, go on with yer bad self.


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COMMENT | "basement/garage demos dont count"
posted by : Firewind
12/13/2012 11:30:48 AM
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Right..too bad I've heard "basement/garage" demos that sound BETTER RECORDED than albums like Mindcrime 2..lameass..

Latorre is the replacement for both Degarmo and Tate..

so fuck off


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COMMENT | btw
posted by : Firewind
12/13/2012 11:32:05 AM
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another blog entry about this i may do but heres one http://mattowarriormetalmadness.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-rise-and-fall-of-queensryche.html


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COMMENT | Oh boy...
posted by : Gino C
12/13/2012 11:45:50 AM
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Looks like Todd’s been keeping up with online shit talk… tisk tisk. This is a nice little indication of what we’ll see in the future. Good job alienating OG-QR fans that were on the fence about you! *2 thumbs up*

If he’s posting stuff like this now… just wait. Guaranteed he’s getting a call from corporate headquarters in Seattle this morning.

Dude just enjoy the ride and if you need a shoulder to cry on… I’m sure that Ripper Owens, Blaze Baily, Steve Allgeier, etc can give you some advice.

BTW if you’re not getting an equal $hare to what SR, MW, EJ are getting… you are a replaceable employee. So get back to work and do your best… knowing that Geoff will be getting a 25% percent of the reward.

End…… of…… FUCKING…… story.


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COMMENT | Queensryche.
posted by : pigchop
12/13/2012 11:50:37 AM
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How do we cut the chain that binds us?

When an whipping pole of resolution is utilized; when all points of contention are swallowed whole by lady justice in waiting; when the hammer of public opinion comes crashing down.

In the end, there can be only one.


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COMMENT | #
posted by : Dharma
12/13/2012 11:50:58 AM
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LOL! A Geoff Tate defender whining about online shit talk? Really? When Tate is on video calling his audience "fucking pussies" for leaving during his set? Or when Tate has told people they suck?

Whatever dude. Tate's spent months talking shit after getting his drunk ass fired. If the new guy wants to fire back at Tate's drunk rambling insults of Queensryche and their fans, let him.


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COMMENT | Bleep Tate!
posted by : Sinister King
12/13/2012 12:04:44 PM
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What happens if the new Queensryche album is their best since Empire? I have a feeling that this album will be on par with Accept's comeback album, Blood Of The Nations. Coincidentally, also with a kickass new lead singer. The Vest may melt like The Wicked Witch when he hears it. It will take Right Said Geoff 500 more interviews to say,"It's too metal."


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COMMENT | ...
posted by : UlverShuggah
12/13/2012 12:21:20 PM
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how many original members in Napalm Death?

Zero. and still they put out amazing albums, and no one calls them cover band.

3/5 is still a more than respectable ratio! DeGarmo didn't write all the material, nor did he write all of the best material...


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COMMENT | 'RE: ...'
posted by : Scatter
12/13/2012 1:05:00 PM
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I never called them a cover band because I didn't even know that they still existed.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: ...'''
posted by : bongwarrior
12/13/2012 6:58:37 PM
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Shill.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: ...'''
posted by : Pictures of Home
12/14/2012 12:58:00 AM
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That says it all really......


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posted by : DMR
12/13/2012 12:27:51 PM
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Gotta love how the Tater Tots have no problem with Jeffrey "5 interviews per week on BB.net" Tate constantly slinging shit, lies, and contradiction....but TLT steps up once to address Tate's bullshit and they can't handle it.

And I love the shots he took with regard to Pamela Moore choosing them over Tate, Barton as producer instead of Kelly Gray and his $200 Acer laptop from Best Buy's black friday special, and peer respect. All true.

Speaking of Kelly Gray and his cheap gear......what ever happened to his custom shop ESP Eclipse from years ago? Why's he playing a low end LTD Viper these days? Must've hocked the Eclipse for an 8 ball.


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posted by : Scatter
12/13/2012 1:06:42 PM
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Please provide me a link to the story where Tate criticized and disrepeected Todd. I'll wait.


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posted by : Evil_Twin
12/13/2012 5:03:32 PM
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No one said he criticized Todd. How could he? According to Geoff he's never even listened to Todd sing Queensryche songs. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

But you Tate dick lickers fail to realize how a BAND works. You see, when you're the member of a BAND, you get offended when people lie about your bandmates and insult your fans!


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posted by : bongwarrior
12/13/2012 6:58:57 PM
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posted by : DMR
12/13/2012 12:32:19 PM
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Gino, stop trying to act like you were "on the fence" about La Torre. Nobody that's been around here is buying it. Tate alienated any fence-sitters long ago with his constant denigration of the material that got him fans in the first place. Not to mention the documented spitting, the constant lies and contradiction on display with stunning regularity here, and pompous elitist bullshit attitude. This is a hard rock/metal site......and NOBODY here on the fence is going to drop onto the side of the fence that Jeffrey and his glorified lounge act is occupying over the guys that actually want to rock.


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posted by : Deadsinktohell
12/13/2012 12:37:38 PM
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yeah, when I go to a show, I can't wait to hear about how bad I suck for paying to go see a band. I so love it when somebody acts like the child I left home with a babysitter and I'm paying them to be entertained. Vest really knows his audience. Can't wait for the 27th annual Operation Mindcrime tour, it will be after the 26th annual OM tour. Seriously guys, get your tickets now!


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12/13/2012 12:50:45 PM
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I see the karoke singer could only go on for so long before he took the low road and started in on indirectly bashing his former hero Geoff .
Let the " Lets Promote Our Version of Queensryche " begin .

The bottom line is both version will be booked at night clubs, casino's ,etc and festivals
Both versions will have a hard time selling theater's, etc.

I will go with Geoff's version as I think the general public will if they promote it as Geoff Tate fronted Queensryche.

Whoever gets the name rights next year will be the winners for future attendance and last decade or so of Queensryche's career. Either way its not going to be some rebirth of Queensryche 22 years later regardless of new album or a singer that can hit all the old notes better . With big turnouts and " record " cd sales....


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posted by : Evil_Twin
12/13/2012 1:55:34 PM
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"I will go with Geoff's version as I think the general public will if they promote it as Geoff Tate fronted Queensryche."

Why the hell would they want to do that? So they can hear 2 hours of shitty music with a couple hits from Mindcrime and Empire at the end? The REAL Queensryche is playing an entire set of pure classics!

But you bring up a bigger point. You and the rest of team tate keep saying the "general public" only know who Geoff Tate is. So fucking what? Who in the hell is going to pay $30 to $50 for a concert ticket when the only song they know is Silence In Tennesse by that one singer? Aside from a few multi-band festival type appearances, the only people paying to see Queensryche are the fans who know exactly what they are doing and who is doing it. Those fans are going to want to hear a full set of real music by talented musicians. So this whole argument of Geoff being the only recognizable member is just plain stupid. The only thing that's gonna get him is 1800 solo albums sold and a massive dive bar tour that will bleed money with all the talentless hacks he has to pay to kiss his ass every day!


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: #'''
posted by : bigsled
12/13/2012 5:57:56 PM
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You are delusional..
I question how much you even went to see Queensryche live.
I would put money on you not having enough money or friends to go see them . Surely you would go see the other talented muscicans regardless wether Geoff was singing or not , right ?
They have always had excellent setlists every tour with material from every release. You would know this .
The karoke singer may be able to hit the high notes but thats where it ends . All the material after the Warning you can really hear Geoff's unique voice and Todd just cant replicate that part.
How did Motley, Dokken , Ratt ,LA Guns , Priest ,Warrant ,etc. do after they replaced the singer . Thats right bozo , they didnt !
You keep mentioning Geoffs solo stats . Which proves you're a idiot because you cant. Its apples to oranges. Even someone like Robert Plant is not going to sell solo like if he was w/ Zepplin. You can do that with every band, ya idiot . LOL


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posted by : Evil_Twin
12/13/2012 7:20:02 PM
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I'm not sure what this has to do with anything, but I've seen Queensryche at least 3 times in concert. Rage For Order opening for AC/DC, Operation Mindcrime headlining an arena, and headlining a club on that covers album tour. There may be more, I can't remember. I've been to a lot of shows. My point of reference is that Geoff Tate is NOT Queensryche. The setlist for his last show with QR combined with the QR songs he's been butchering on his solo tour would be a good indication of where he's going. I could give a fuck about "stats", but his proposed fake Queensryche is just a couple good musicians added onto his horrible horrible ungodly horrible solo band. So sucking is definitely in his immediate future. What exactly am I delusional about?

And since you're such a big Geoff Tate fan, what's your favorite song on Kings & Thieves? I know it's hard to narrow down because there are so many winners on there, but go ahead, give it a shot!


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posted by : saskmetal
12/13/2012 1:09:31 PM
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Bigsled.

If the new queensryche has any trouble selling out theaters in the near future, it will be because of one reason. Geoff Tate. He alienated and turned on Chris degarmo back in the tough years when they should have stuck together, he turned queensryche into a non metal band thereby alienating his established fan base, he put the band into horrible live ideas like the cabaret, and he couldn't write any hits with his chosen outside writers. Queensryche lost 80 percent of their fan base over the last 18 years. While their contemporaries who had smart leadership are still selling out arenas and are still on the radio. Qr 2.0 have a huge uphill battle to reclaim the lost fanbase, and I hope with a solid new album and a real management team, they can make some huge gains. There still may be a chance at theaters and radio hits, who knows?


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posted by : Scatter
12/13/2012 1:34:10 PM
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Are you kidding me?

So let me get this straight.

If the songs suck because all of the song writers have left the band and nobody left knows how to write a hit then it's all Tate's fault.

If La torre ends up sounding like a bad Karaoke singer it's because of Tate.

If the new band has problems getting signed to a label it's because of Tate.

If the new band can't sell out stadiums or even night clubs its because of Tate.

However if the new album does well and they end up selling a million copies then it's all because of them and Tate had nothing to do with it?

Do you even realize how biased and ridiculous you sound?


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posted by : bongwarrior
12/13/2012 6:59:22 PM
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posted by : Dharma
12/13/2012 1:41:17 PM
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Considering that the band has already sold out night clubs and gigs while Tate can't even give concert tickets away, I'd say your argument was invalid.


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12/13/2012 1:54:33 PM
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Scatter, knew I would get your panties in a knot. There is no point even responding with anything intelligent. You have no understanding of how self appointed leader Tate took a top tier hard rock band and gradually dragged them into near obscurity. In hindsight, the band should have fired Tate several years ago. If they only would have known what a douche he would become.


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posted by : Riotass666
12/13/2012 5:15:18 PM
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It becomes more and more obvious that Scatter is a member of Geoff Taint's immediate family. Careful when you unknot those panties, sweetie pie.


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posted by : Scatter
12/13/2012 8:19:43 PM
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So how's Scott doing Mrs Rockenfield?


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: ''''RE: #'''''''
posted by : bongwarrior
12/14/2012 4:33:20 AM
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posted by : Scatter
12/13/2012 8:18:14 PM
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What your failing to acknowledge is that it's rare for ANY hard rock/metal band from that 80's to not be slipping into obscurity nowadays. I mean geez, Ratt, Crue, Dokken, Great White, Guns 'n Roses, almost all of them are struggling to stay relevant and hardly any of them have their original members. They're also all playing night clubs nowadays, casinos and cruise ships if they're lucky. Unfortunately boy bands, pop music and American Idol has done more to damage the legacy of Queensryche than anything that Geoff Tate could have managed to do.


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posted by : Pictures of Home
12/14/2012 1:05:20 AM
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it's funny how you are comparing QR to 80s hair bands....because they were not an 80s hair band...says a lot that GT is hiring several musicians from that era...

those bands are struggling to stay "relevant"- that's why you stick with what you want to do and are good at and let the MARKET decide.....GT has very right to make whatever music he likes...shame no one will buy it

stick to your guns.....never compromise, drop bad band members....Deep Purple will headline Wacken this year... Scorpions, Judas Priest headlined Graspop in 2011...Accept are making great albums...


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posted by : Scatter
12/14/2012 2:49:55 PM
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Did you even see them in the 80's?

http://www.popbunker.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/queensryche-then.jpg

They may have been a little heavier than your typical hair metal band but they were definitely hair metal.


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posted by : bongwarrior
12/14/2012 4:33:53 AM
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posted by : TheKarlMarxAbortion
12/13/2012 1:55:22 PM
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Todd's hitting below the vest now. I'm liking this dude.


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COMMENT | Cloud dwellers on parade or Pig Brain Blues in the Key Of Fuck.
posted by : pigchop
12/13/2012 2:07:54 PM
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Earlier:

An exuberant mood prevails - the sun above, a friend in spirit, quenches an once insatiable thirst for comfort. Such a simple glory it is to sit with new cherry blossoms and naked sunshine warm on my face.

Now:

a simple solution to the turmoil inside - a space in time to rest awhile - happy enough to stoke my fire and banish skeletons to dust; to peace. I can shake delirium from my bones when I'm alive like this.

I can shake delirium from my bones as surely as I can close my eyes without fear of this world I am coming to know.

Later has already arrived.

I am reminded now of my chosen battle to stay the call of a terrible vice - my cajoling a sense of numb joy born in the weeping eye of my dead lord - heaven in the depths of a blackened spoon.

You fuck...you suck!

In the year of my lords death, I discovered the soft worth of silence au natural. And the breakdowns inside became as soiled feathers on new wind.

"Hey hey you you get off of my cloud".

Are you ready to say 'fuck it' and die or, will you do your bit to save the planet from yet another filthy fucking lie?

Cockulations for vulvulations...body, heart and soul. Slap on a condom. Champion birth control.



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COMMENT | 'RE: Cloud dwellers on parade or Pig Brain Blues in the Key Of Fuck.'
posted by : BLSDMF
12/13/2012 2:53:46 PM
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Pig Brain Blues in the Key of Fuck


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COMMENT | I'm
posted by : JPACHALEN
12/13/2012 3:25:02 PM
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telling you Queensyrche as a band stayed at the party way too long. There like the drunk that won't leave. Messy and annoying.


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COMMENT | .......
posted by : bongwarrior
12/13/2012 3:59:28 PM
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....... after reading this thread from top to bottom, i'd have to agree with the Ayatollah Khomeni when he reviewed The Satanic Verses - "a thundering good read."


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COMMENT | Thanks Blabb
posted by : Riotass666
12/13/2012 5:17:44 PM
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You sure stirred it up tonight! Just when things were starting to calm down a bit and we might have been able to move past As the Taint Turns and get back to music with the real Queensryche. You had to find something from the new guy to fire up Team Taint. Thanks a lot, enjoy your website hits.


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COMMENT | Tate has lost all sense of reality
posted by : jhhead
12/13/2012 7:42:32 PM
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So what Tate is saying is, if a song was written in your youth and you feel its adolecent, you shouldnt have to play it anymore. Even though the fans call for it and want to hear it. Ok, so Tate should call Metallica and tell them to stop playing Battery, Seek and destroy and Whiplash. Then Tate should call up Ozzy and tell him to stop playing EVERY Sabbath tune that he has done. GEOFF TATE CANT SING QUEEN OF THE RYCHE ANYMORE! Just admit it, dont tell your fans the suddenly have amnesia and cant remember the song or dont know it. If they forgot about the song, why are there 50 articles and journalists ASKING YOU ABOUT IT YOU TOOL!


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12/13/2012 7:58:48 PM
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Toasting in an epic bread.


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posted by : LifeIsDeath
12/13/2012 9:58:08 PM
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This thread is better than any soap opera ever. Keep it up I need to fill another bowl.


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COMMENT | Rock stars and painters and serial killers: all worth more dead than alive.
posted by : pigchop
12/13/2012 10:27:28 PM
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In the year of my dead lord's last stand, I became quite deranged. Paintings came into being - terribly pained works of art...or shit.

Anything wet to heave upon a canvas - anything will do just fine.


Diseased blood dragged from a junk-sick whore's ravaged veins; she offered of it freely and I in turn fell upon my awful canvas with a syringe filled with the dirt of her life in my hands.

Is a cunt is nothing more than an enraged vagina? Make your choice and go with it like a spider walk slide show come thoughts of rain.

The world is full of hapless freaks, and a bottle of stupidity bordering on fast-tracked happiness waiting on every hard corner. Puckered dreams spewing the fat we chew on - it's just another type of release. Learn to enjoy it motherfucker.


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COMMENT | hahaha...first Tate, now Todd...
posted by : johannes77
12/13/2012 10:53:02 PM
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..so QR has this singer who has lead singer's disease...they throw him out...to be replaced by a nobody who also has lead singer's disease....lol...how ironic... at GT actually WROTE or collaborated on classic QR tunes...Todd you are a hired hack, Please shut your mouth, scab boy


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COMMENT | @johannes77
posted by : Hayden
12/13/2012 11:33:28 PM
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So, the guy's posted one statement during an otherwise silent, reserved tenure with the band, and you're already saying that he has 'lead singer's disease' (which is what, exactly, might I ask? Narcissism? Hubris? Yeah, because those are things which are exclusive to rock vocalists). In addition to this, you're berating the guy simply for expressing the truth. Not one word of this statement is dishonest or exaggerated. Like Deadsinktohell said way earlier in the discussion, he's simply pointing out the obvious, and saying what everybody basically already knows. You can knock the guy all you want, and use whatever ad hominem you can come up with, but the fact is that this guy is a solid musician, a top performer, and a person with enough confidence to say that the band is better off with him, and better off without his predecessor. The words of this scab boy stand.


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12/14/2012 12:41:10 AM
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I don't even care for QR. Never have, but I have always hated Tate.
I remember he said he doesn't like metal.
But he likes the $$$ metal provides for him.


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COMMENT | Todd did not need to say these things but
posted by : BizarreReverend
12/14/2012 2:25:43 AM
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compared to Twate and his hundred and thousand of lies and deceit. It was about time somebody put the record straight. The Toddryche version will OWN Twate´s lame try of a 80´s bloated Glam band version.


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12/14/2012 6:30:57 AM
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Trick stick slick is the one I would pick if love and acceptance is to be measured with the flick of a bic.

Thus did he spake on winded breath:

Receiving a great altarage
annihilation will be swift.
Holy warriors mount rampage
sovereign chaos sets time adrift!

Your breath smells like a dead rose - it's stem rotting in an old bottle of mildew-frocked beer. And so far as fleeting observations go, I think that is seasonal as in "Hey man, summer has arrived - let's go outside and drink a few icy cold and highly refreshing brewskis"

When did you last experience a shower?
What the hell does that have to do with the current topic of discussion?
Well, what is the topic?
I...I don't remember.
When did you last experience a flower?

It never rains on the west coast - not when sunshine streams from every stoned ass.


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posted by : BLSDMF
12/14/2012 11:29:08 AM
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Hulkamania will live forever


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COMMENT | Ok...
posted by : TVT
12/14/2012 9:57:38 AM
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This guy does the Sammy Hagar thing by slamming the former singer instead of showing some respect at least - very nice. Just with the exception that Sammy had done a very successful solo career before joining VH while this guy is a total hack no had heard about before. The bottom line is that no one would have heard about Queensryche if Tate hadn't sang in the band at first. Secondly, who wrote Queen of the Reich? Chris DeGarmo (who doesn't even play in the band anymore).

Does this idiot believe that a record company would like to market their album while no one even knows if these guys are allowed to use the name Queensryche in 2-3 years?


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12/14/2012 10:01:25 PM
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what the fuck is wrong with pigchop? Is he/she on the wrong forum?


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COMMENT | I'm actually surprised
posted by : Cerebral Eulogy
12/15/2012 6:04:35 PM
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He hasn't said something before this. I know someone who went to a Geoff Tate show and met him outside after the show. She said while Tate was talking with the other people, he was saying the most horrendous shit about Todd La Torre.

I can understand he's angry and bitter, but he's been a total alcoholic douchebag over the entire course of 2012.

I think it's time Todd stood up for himself. It didn't come across as conceited or anything to me, he's just standing up to the former bully of a lead singer, who for whatever reason, obviously can't keep his fucking mouth shut if it were stitched closed.


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COMMENT | POST NUMBER 180
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12/17/2012 9:26:00 PM
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Dear Blabbermouth

This is the 180th post on this wonderful topic. Please charge your advertisers accordingly.


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