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STEVE 'ZETRO' SOUZA Says EXODUS Fans Didn't Accept Him Until 'Fabulous Disaster' Album - Jan. 26, 2013
Belgium's Metal To Infinity recently conducted an interview with former EXODUS and current HATRIOT singer Steve "Zetro" Souza. A couple of excerpts from the chat follow below.

Metal To Infinity: You left LEGACY (which became TESTAMENT later on), to join EXODUS. How was it to replace Paul Baloff, who was dearly beloved by the fans? Did you have a hard time to get your own spot in EXODUS?

Zetro: Honestly, it was a big set of shoes to fill. I didn't win over the diehard EXODUS fans until a couple years after I joined. Paul had such a charisma to him. He was the ultimate definition of what a true metalhead was. I wasn't fully accepted in the eyes of the fans until we started touring for "Fabulous Disaster". At that point I was the voice of EXODUS.

Metal To Infinity: You recorded your last EXODUS album, "Tempo Of The Damned", in 2004. What happened afterwards? Why were you replaced by Rob Dukes?

Zetro: Life happened. I had been out of music, at least full-time, for ten years when I rejoined EXODUS for the "Tempo" record. At that point I had a family to support and a good-paying job back at home. It was too hard to let all that go and tour for a year at a time, so I had to make a choice, and my choice was be a family man. It's that simple. The situation could have been better. I could have done things differently. I dropped the ball on the band and they were pissed off at me for a while. I understand that and I actually agree with that. My head wasn't in the right place. I couldn't do music 100% and I let them down. Family was more important. The ironic thing is now my sons are both in HATRIOT, so I have my music and my family. Things have come full circle and I am back stronger than ever!

Metal To Infinity: Altogether you [were in] EXODUS for about eight years (1986-1992 and 2002-2004), how do you look back to those years?

Zetro: I look back on those years as being the best times of my life. What an amazing ride that was! We had no idea at the time that we were making history. We were just guys playing fast music and living in the moment. There are so many good stories. One good one happened back in 1987 in the state of Florida. We were playing an ice hockey arena and the lineup was CELTIC FROST, EXODUS and ANTHRAX. The promoter had no idea that the fans were as insane as they were. There were no seats at this venue. It was all general admission and everyone was standing. They had built a wimpy barricade to try and contain people but the crowd destroyed that thing in our first song. There was one security guard in between us and the crowd and he got smashed. His legs were broken. I had to stop the show and make the crowd back up so they could get him out of there! They hauled him to the hospital wearing an EXODUS shirt…

Metal To Infinity: What is important when you join a band? Is craftsmanship prior to personal friendship and comradeship?

Zetro: Honestly, it is a bit of both. Obviously, you have to have a certain degree of musicianship and have your chops in shape to be able to pull of the material. Friendship and comradeship is big too, because you have to be able to get along with the people in the band. Being crammed in a van with a bunch of smelly dudes is bad enough without adding a personality conflict or a bad attitude to the mix. So I need both for it to work and fortunately we have that with HATRIOT right now.

Metal To Infinity: The biggest difference between now and the EXODUS years is Internet. For some a curse, for others a blessing. What's your opinion about the Internet. Is it a handful tool for a band like HATRIOT or an open gate for downloading and ripping off new bands?

Zetro: Yes, the Internet is the big gamechanger. It has totally leveled the playing field of the music business and crippled the big record companies. They are no longer the big gate keepers. The Internet, to me, is a double-edged sword. It is a great tool for getting direct contact with your fan base and I love that aspect. The downside is there are so many bands now that the market can't handle it. I don't think there is a platform for a band to become huge anymore… not for the long term anyway. The sales are not there like in the old days and that keeps bands from being able to do a band full time. It is what it is, I guess.

Metal To Infinity: Thanks to the Internet, we were able to get in touch with the band, so it has positive sides as well. For example: spreading your music and videos is really simple and there aren't any boundaries left…

Zetro: It definitely has a positive side. There's no doubt about it. The key is to be open-minded and be willing to change your marketing and promotion strategy to fit the times. I'm fine with that. There are bands and labels out there that were big back in the day and still have it stuck in their head that you can only do things one way, and these are the people that don't last. I am good with the changes in the business. We just have to adapt and do smart business where we can. Obviously, records don't sell and pay the bills. What we can do is offset the costs in other places… make a great record for ten grand instead of half a million, tour in a van instead of a bus, etc.

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COMMENT | i'm no patriot but that hat is a riot
posted by : rod puffer
1/26/2013 4:15:42 PM
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what an absolutely horrible album cover.was expecting some derby and baseball caps in riot gear with tear gas canisters flying everywhere.


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COMMENT | 'RE: i''m no patriot but that hat is a riot'
posted by : c@nuckthr@sh3r
1/26/2013 4:27:18 PM
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Yeah, not a good cover. Zet is the fucking man though; loved him since 'Pleasures...'


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COMMENT | let the Dukes-bashing begin...
posted by : JameyJasta'sThumb
1/26/2013 4:28:26 PM
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... but fuck all of you in advance. since the Poser Disposer is no longer with us, Dukes is the best replacement because Zetro's voice on 'Tempo' was so fucking annoying it was laughable. his Brian Johnson impression is totally lame. Dukes may not be the best vocalist in all of metal, but he's head and shoulders above Zetro.

EXODUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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COMMENT | 'RE: let the Dukes-bashing begin...'
posted by : pigchop
1/26/2013 4:32:49 PM
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you so funny - so, so funny. hahaha - great comedy, man - just great.


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COMMENT | 'RE: let the Dukes-bashing begin...'
posted by : c@nuckthr@sh3r
1/26/2013 4:50:28 PM
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I dig Rob Dukes, just like the Zet better.

And I don't know what record YOU listened to, but 'Tempo...' ranks up there with their best work - Souza was in fine venomous form. 'Shroud of Urine', 'Blacklist' and 'Culling the Herd' are all destined to be classics, man. Getcha head outta yer ass already...;)


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COMMENT | 'RE: let the Dukes-bashing begin...'
posted by : Angrysun316
1/26/2013 7:08:54 PM
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At least Zetro's voice had personality (like it or not). Dukes sounds like a generic metalcore guy.


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posted by : pigchop
1/26/2013 4:34:22 PM
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I miss the guy fronting Exodus, but am very happy to hear his new band. Right on.


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COMMENT | What a blast
posted by : elbastardo1b
1/26/2013 4:41:55 PM
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I was at the Tampa show.... Absolute pandemonium !!!


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posted by : Aces_High99
1/26/2013 4:54:37 PM
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Fabulous Disaster is one of the greatest thrash albums ever. Amazing guitar tone and absolutely vicious, unhinged lyrics and vocals from Zetro.

The dude is criminally underrated.


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posted by : draganbre
1/26/2013 4:54:46 PM
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Well, compared to BBB and FD, Pleasures of The Flesh is a pretty mediocre album. It's still a pretty good album on it's own.


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posted by : nancyboy
1/26/2013 6:02:29 PM
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Uh, I'm either having dejavu, or I read this exact same interview on BM a few months back.


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posted by : RiotAct666
1/26/2013 7:10:51 PM
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Been a fan of Zetro's since Pleasures of the flesh his first record with Exodus, This new record he just released is awesome! Congrats.


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COMMENT | love the title track of Fabulous Disaster
posted by : And Then There Were None
1/26/2013 7:11:37 PM
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one of the all-time great thrash songs. but the rest of the album doesn't grab me like Pleasures does.

i think Pleasures if fucking awesome, front to back: the fucking mental energy of Deranged, the awesome chug of 'Till Death, the fun and fast vibe of Faster Than, the dynamics and harmonies of Pleasures, the insane catchiness of Chemi-Kill and a fucking barn burner of a closer in Choose Your Weapon.

i love that album. best Zetro album in my books and 2nd-best Exodus album.


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COMMENT | 'RE: love the title track of Fabulous Disaster'
posted by : c@nuckthr@sh3r
1/27/2013 7:40:54 AM
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What, no 'Parasite'? Awesome tune!!! Along with the others you mentioned, especially 'Faster Than...'.


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posted by : jgun
1/26/2013 7:47:02 PM
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I know i am in the minority, but Impact is my favorite Exodus album. I think that album kills from start to finish!


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Loud'nHeavy
1/26/2013 11:36:00 PM
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Impact is Imminent is underrated thrash under pressure, is just like a strike of the beast type closer. changing of the guards another classic track. III is not my # 1 favortie Exodus album but its definatelybetter than its given credit for.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : c@nuckthr@sh3r
1/27/2013 7:44:04 AM
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'Impact...' is a great album, agreed. The only album that kinda left me scratching my head in confusion was 'Force of Habit'. Not awful, but certainly their worst. Wasn't surprised when they went on hiatus afterwards.


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COMMENT | Never liked Zetro
posted by : The Rabbit
1/26/2013 8:15:28 PM
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He cannot even come close to Dukes.


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posted by : evilstonefish
1/26/2013 8:56:00 PM
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I never listen to album covers. Good song though.


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posted by : king's fate
1/26/2013 10:07:33 PM
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well said Zet, very smart and intelligent answers there, can't wait for the Hatriot debut


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COMMENT | And now Zetro is the one everyone wants!
posted by : zappafrank
1/26/2013 10:12:04 PM
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And now you're the one everyone wants!

Don't get me wrong: the Dukes albums are good stuff (esp. Shovel Headed Kill Machine), but for whatever reason they're hard to accept as Exodus.

I know Dukes can be a goofball, but something about his approach takes itself too seriously. Zetro brought some fun to the band, which is one of the reasons Exodus stood out back in the day.

Let me make it clear again that I'm not bashing the Dukes era, but the band as it currently stands doesn't seem to encapsulate the spirit that it originally had. The Atrocity Exhibition stuff is dead serious, while Fabulous Disaster is serious but tongue in cheek. That's the difference, and that's what missing.


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COMMENT | Pleasures Of The Flesh...
posted by : Maidenangel
1/26/2013 11:48:10 PM
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is actually my fave Zetro Exodus album, and 2nd fave Exodus album overall, just behind Bonded By Blood of course! Don't get me wrong, I love Fabulous Disaster too, but it's not quite as good as Pleasures for me. That is a hugely underrated album, and I think it's a shame it's so overlooked, as it definitely deserves the classic status given to it's predecessor and it's successor.

As for Rob Dukes, he's good, and I do like some of the Exodus material with him on vocals, but's he's just not as good as Zetro. Zetro was a unique personality and voice in the band, and also added to the unhinged sonic quality of the band. This is an aspect that Rob Dukes simply lacks. I really hope Hatriot is a band that is deserving of such an iconic thrash frontman as Zetro, and I really look forward to hearing the new album! I won't pretend that I don't still hope for Zetro to rejoin Exodus one day though! :)


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COMMENT | 'RE: Pleasures Of The Flesh...'
posted by : wild rover of hell
1/27/2013 9:06:08 PM
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I agree, loved pleasures, thought fabulous started getting hokey with the friendly violent fun shit, kinda anthraxy IMO. Tempo was one of the best comeback albums ever.


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COMMENT | I never...
posted by : bigmetalcock1206
1/27/2013 12:26:32 AM
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accepted this guy,never.


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COMMENT | especially after..
posted by : bigmetalcock1206
1/27/2013 12:28:32 AM
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I saw Forces of Nature with Ben Affleck and Sandra Bullock.


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COMMENT | 'RE: especially after..'
posted by : c@nuckthr@sh3r
1/27/2013 7:48:20 AM
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? I have NO idea what you're talking about, man. Care to elaborate?


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COMMENT | Also,
posted by : blindg
1/27/2013 7:56:02 AM
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At least Accept fans didn't "Exodus"


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COMMENT | As..
posted by : mr fuzzy
1/27/2013 8:45:58 AM
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said before, the Dukes Exodus takes itself way too seriously. The music is good and heavy, but the fun was lost somewhere. (sorry Gary)

Zetros vocals for me, were/are probably thrashes finest, right up there with Hetfield's circa 83-88. Yes, I think Zetros is THAT good.

Zetros last TOTD album, for me, was Exodus' finest, even better than BBB, POTF, FD, III, and FOH. That album had great songs, fantastic production, and it FLOWED like a sonnamobitch.

Rob is good for what Exodus' is doing now. (when Gary's not playing with Slayer) But with Rob the fun factor is taken out.

And isn't that what Exodus was from the beginning? Some "Good Friendly Violent Fun"?


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COMMENT | Rob...
posted by : jph
1/27/2013 8:47:24 AM
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is very tongue-in-cheek, too. Most of you just don't seem to get it. Zetro is a malcontent who Gary loathes when they're bandmates. From SHKM through both Exhibit records, Exodus has gotten infinitely better and their chemistry with Rob is practically palpable, imo. They both have personality but Rob seems more talented to these ears and has more personality AND charisma than Zet. Again, this is only my opinion, people, so relax.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Rob...'
posted by : th3haunted
1/28/2013 11:14:40 PM
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ROB DUKES IS A TURKEY


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COMMENT | Also,
posted by : jph
1/27/2013 9:01:09 AM
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as Gary has said himself, Zetro is all about the money and he rubbed him the wrong way with his diva, rock star wanna - be ism. Rob seems more real and genuine and, I've seen them both live and I enjoyed Rob's performance much better. I had a blast and I could tell he's very passionate about his work and he truly enjoys what he does. No LSD (LEAD SINGER DISEASE) with Dukes - just talent and the love of music, imo.


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posted by : withnoregret
1/27/2013 11:15:40 AM
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I love Zetro but only with Legacy/Exodus. I love Exodus but only with Baloff/Zetro. The whole situation is sad.


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posted by : Repangaea
1/27/2013 12:44:01 PM
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"Im so old school, I cant stand Rob dukes. Zetro is the man"" GET THE FUCK OVER IT! This era of Exodus with dukes is some of the best material written in that bands career! Fuck Ive been into em since pleasure and that was a great time in their career, but if some of you cant get over that Exodus has written some top notch material since zetros departure your missing out! Not just that but Holt and Hunting have busted their ass to keep this band alive all these years and your spitting in the face of all that hard work. Hatriot sucks balls anyways, I heard that shit the other day, and it blows!


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COMMENT | 'RE: #UHH'
posted by : th3haunted
1/28/2013 11:16:19 PM
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THAT NEW HATRIOT ALBUM BLOWS AWAY THAT TWEEKER HOLT HAS DONE IN THE LAST TEN YEARS


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COMMENT | Hatriot
posted by : I'mGonnaKillEddie.
1/27/2013 2:18:22 PM
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I downloaded the Hatriot EP (4 tracks) from here, last Summer, I think it was, and those 4 songs are incredibly very good. There's one on there, 'The Fear Within', that isn't on the new album, which you can pre-order at Amazon. I believe it comes out near the middle of Feb.

Anyways, the sound is really polished. They're a very young band that he's fronting, not that he's old or anything, just seasoned and I want to pick that 'Heroes of Origin' album up next month, might order it up next weekend, so don't buy all of them till I get some money together next month!

I'd love for him to re-do his Exodus albums and tour again with Exodus, but nothing lasts forever and I'm gonna jump on the Hatriot Train for the time-being!!!!!! Listen responsibly, now!


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posted by : angryxpeh
1/27/2013 8:48:42 PM
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I've seen Hatriot live and they didn't impress me (maybe because their old drummer had misconfigured triggers on bass drums), but at least Zetro is conscious and in touch with reality when he's talking about music business nowadays.


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COMMENT | HATRIOT
posted by : th3haunted
1/28/2013 11:18:28 PM
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THAT NEW FUCKING HATRIOT ALBUM KICKS ASS. I FEEL BAD FOR EXODUS AFTER LISTENING TO THE BLOODSTAINED WINGS


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