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OZZY OSBOURNE Says New BLACK SABBATH Album Sounds Like 'Satanic Blues' - Feb. 10, 2013
Legendary heavy metal band BLACK SABBATH will release its much-anticipated new album, "13", in June via Vertigo/Universal Republic in the U.S. and Vertigo in all other territories. The drum tracks on the group's first LP with Ozzy Osbourne since 1978 were laid down by RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE sticksman Brad Wilk following original drummer Bill Ward's decision to bow out of the reunion.

Osbourne, Tony Iommi (guitar) and Geezer Butler (bass) recorded the album primarily in Los Angeles with producer Rick Rubin. Songtitles set to appear on the CD include "God Is Dead", "End Of The Beginning" and "Age Of Reason", the latter two of which stretch out to as long as eight minutes.

"I wanted to make an album that stood alongside their first four albums," Rubin tells RollingStone.com. "The first album wasn't a straightforward heavy metal record. You could hear the jazz influence, so that was the goal, and to capture that live interaction."

Ward in May 2012 announced again that he was declining to join his former bandmates for its scheduled 2012 dates, as well as the recording of the new album, due to a contractual dispute. After SABBATH shot down Rubin's suggestion to replace Ward with Ginger Baker (CREAM) ("I thought, 'Bloody hell?'" Iommi tells the magazine. "I just couldn't see that."), Rick suggested Wilk.

Iommi tells RollingStone.com that Ward's demands came out of the blue. "I didn't know Bill was having these issues when we got together — he never even mentioned it to us," he says. "It was quite confusing. We wanted him involved, but it was just getting too hard." Adds Osbourne: "You can't go, 'Well, I don't like it.' You get off your ass and get your shit together. The life of a bohemian rock star is fucking long over."

Iommi was diagnosed with cancer at the end of 2011, and his treatments forced BLACK SABBATH to cancel all but three tour dates in 2012 after announcing their reunion in November 2011.

"Things are fairly good, dare I say, at the moment," Iommi tells RollingStone.com. "I'm still here and it's okay. We had to do this album now. Christ, if it happened in another 10 years, I don't know if we'd be around."

Osbourne, who describes the new SABBATH album as "Satanic blues," also spoke about one of the band's new tracks, the provocatively titled "God Is Dead". "It starts off, 'God is dead,'" Osbourne says, "but at the end it says, 'I don't believe that God is dead.'"

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COMMENT | YES!!! The first to say it....
posted by : dblbass
2/10/2013 8:06:23 AM
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....I CAN NOT WAIT!!!!


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posted by : angelus1
2/10/2013 8:08:43 AM
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No High Notes = No 8 minute tracks.

Seriously though, this sounds like good news.


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COMMENT | Drummer
posted by : Drums 14
2/10/2013 8:16:53 AM
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What a joke of a choice for a drummer. Rick Rubin is going to screw up this whole thing. I'm no longer excited for this release.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Drummer'
posted by : Riotass666
2/10/2013 10:08:20 AM
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Nah, Rick Rubin just laid on a couch while Iommi and Butler figured it all out. His name just helped them get a better record deal, that's all.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Drummer'
posted by : Smashing Blumpkins
2/10/2013 10:44:30 AM
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"Going to" screw it up? Shit's already done and in the can. Get over it.


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COMMENT | Less...
posted by : SweetCheetah
2/10/2013 8:18:02 AM
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talkie about the new Cd and more releasie. The wait is killing me.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Less...'
posted by : Smashing Blumpkins
2/10/2013 10:46:57 AM
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Kinda how cancer was killing Iommi? Don't be a plug. June is four short months away.


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COMMENT | Not optimistic
posted by : Armored Saint Rules
2/10/2013 8:29:01 AM
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No Tony Martin= No Black Sabbath
No RJD= No Black Sabbath
No Ian Gillen=No Black Sabbath
No Glenn Hughes= Well, never mind, I'll take Ozzy over him.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Not optimistic'
posted by : Huntin' Hippies
2/10/2013 10:02:30 AM
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Ozzy, Tony, Geezer and Bill are Black Sabbath, don't even try to put any other singer in front of Ozzy or try to defend those other versions. I'm not saying Dio Sabbath wasn't awesome, but it was NOT Black Sabbath. Neither is this threesome with a new drummer.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: Not optimistic'''
posted by : dblbass
2/11/2013 3:53:32 AM
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Then WHO THE FUCK IS IT??


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COMMENT | 'RE: Not optimistic'
posted by : Smashing Blumpkins
2/10/2013 10:50:40 AM
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So all of those people need to be in the band at the same time in order for it to truly be Black Sabbath? Sounds like a clusterfuck to me.


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COMMENT | denmark
posted by : motley crue
2/10/2013 8:32:17 AM
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still cant get over the fact the bill ward is not playing on it .....


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COMMENT | Talk about an inflated sense of worth, wow
posted by : wild rover of hell
2/10/2013 8:45:59 AM
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"I wanted to make an album that stood alongside their first four albums," Rubin tells RollingStone.com. "The first album wasn't a straightforward heavy metal record. You could hear the jazz influence, so that was the goal, and to capture that live interaction."

Not to be overly dramatic here but how about "they" or "we" even, shit. I thought it was egos like this that almost killed the music biz. I'm sure he had a lot of work to do for the beastie boys but as I remember hanneman had all of reign in blood done on four track before rubin was even in the picture. He was barely around for death magnetic...how much for sabbath? He makes it sound like he's in the band.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Talk about an inflated sense of worth, wow'
posted by : Riotass666
2/10/2013 10:11:41 AM
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Rick Rubin talks like that so he can get his big paycheck for his next gig. There are many statements from many bands in recent years confirming that Rick Rubin does nothing but show up at the beginning, hang out less and less in the studio, and collect a big paycheck for doing nothing. I'll bet he pays someone to write his lines for his interviews, too.


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posted by : bringbackacidbath
2/10/2013 8:48:00 AM
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The addition of Brad Wilk and the fact that Geezer is in charge of lyrics makes me think this is going to be good.

Please no "Psycho Man" or "Selling My Soul" type garbage.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : wild rover of hell
2/10/2013 9:54:30 AM
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Maybe they shoulda got Jimmy Kyle then... Nah, he's probably too busy with the reunion


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Loud'nHeavy
2/10/2013 12:48:03 PM
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How about getting chris barnes to stop by the studio to record some deathmetal vocals for a track or two. sFU is basically Black Sabbath with groweling vocals anyway and plus they had an album titled 13 back in '05


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posted by : dallaswillis
2/10/2013 8:48:27 AM
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They should have got Matt Cameron. I thought he did a good job on the IommI CD. He's no Ward but he can play slow and it doesn't sound slow...if that makes any sense.


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posted by : derpdederp
2/10/2013 8:49:49 AM
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satanic blues can only be a good thing... can't wait for this man, those song titles sound pretty cool too


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posted by : Aces_High99
2/10/2013 8:55:48 AM
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Ginger Baker??

Damn, that could've turned out brilliantly. Only problem is Baker is notoriously unstable and angry, even in his early 70s. Probably not the right choice temperament-wise.

Drumming though? It could've been amazing...


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COMMENT | 'DAMN.'
posted by : dblbass
2/11/2013 3:57:31 AM
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Every pic I've saw of him for the past 25 years is of him SITTING DOWN. He's over 70....I'm thinking his best drumming is behind him.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Viking Christ
2/11/2013 11:08:27 AM
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A guy I know played with Ginger last year. Said he was super surly and couldn't stay in time. I guess I can kinda understand what Rubin was going for since Bill's drumming was really jazzy on parts of the first few albums, and Ginger is a jazzy player, but, yes, Ginger's best days are way behind him.


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posted by : angelus1
2/10/2013 8:56:33 AM
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How are they going to get Ozzy to sound Organic and not 15-tracked and auto-tuned all to fuck?


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posted by : Zambo
2/10/2013 8:58:56 AM
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Satanic blues? Sounds great!


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COMMENT | Dick Rubin
posted by : JJJB
2/10/2013 9:09:49 AM
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"You could hear the jazz influence, so that was the goal, and to capture that live interaction."

Bill Fuck was THE most important of that "interaction" on the first 4 Sabbath albums you over rated piece if shit.



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COMMENT | 'RE: Dick Rubin'
posted by : angelus1
2/10/2013 9:12:17 AM
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Yeah, but Bill Fuck can't fucking play anymore, he's all boom-tap and heart-attack


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: Dick Rubin'''
posted by : Riotass666
2/10/2013 10:22:13 AM
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Free Bill Fuck!

Fuck Dick Lubin!


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posted by : RiotAct666
2/10/2013 9:21:45 AM
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Hope it's an evil & dark record.


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posted by : Gruntotengott
2/10/2013 10:13:16 AM
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No Bill Ward = No Satanic Blues


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COMMENT | #
posted by : Psychobolia.com
2/10/2013 10:15:31 AM
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No Bill Ward = No Black Sabbath!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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COMMENT | It`ll sound...
posted by : frank_the_poet
2/10/2013 10:18:44 AM
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…..satanically autotuned… Ozzy can`t sing anymore. Just listen to his latest albums. The vocals has this "plastic" fake sound. Just PLEASE don`t use technology that way :-(


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COMMENT | Only one of you wants to comment on Ginger Baker?
posted by : Riotass666
2/10/2013 10:21:15 AM
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I think that was a brilliant suggestion, I can't believe Rick Rubin thought of it himself. Ginger Baker is not a metal drummer, not even a rock drummer. His playing would have brought them the jazz and blues element they were seeking, in an attempt to recapture the first album style. Plus he's so old now he can only play slooooow.

Is Ginger Baker insane? The recent documentary on him, Beware of Mr. Baker, certainly seemed to indicate this. So Ginger Baker is mentally unstable, and his time in any band is always brief. Still could have had him play on this album, get someone else to play live, and see if they can work it out with Bill Ward for a follow up album and tour. It's not like they're starting their career here, they are finishing it, and obviously want to go out on top.

Instead they pick B--- W--- in an apparent attempt to fool people into not noticing that Bill Ward isn't there. Is Sharon going to dress Brad Wilk like Bill Ward, too? I guess picking someone who will work cheap was more important than finding the right style of drummer.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Only one of you wants to comment on Ginger Baker?'
posted by : FrozenCorpse
2/10/2013 10:54:58 AM
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I did! :) but just now!


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COMMENT | #
posted by : tviggop
2/10/2013 10:26:28 AM
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No assholes = No blabbermouth

Damn I'm tired of the Bill Ward "issue". He was just an average stoned out drummer at the right place and time, just as the rest of the band...


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : JJJB
2/10/2013 10:31:10 AM
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What a foolish statement by someone with no knowledge or understanding of musical chemistry.


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: #'''
posted by : HarryBulsacSuxMaidenRules
2/10/2013 4:49:50 PM
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What's foolish is people thinking an out of shape drummer in his mid-60's can do the music any justice...or even be healthy enough to tour... I think people do this "no Bill Ward = no Sabbath" stuff just to have something to say... I mean, the guy has been in and out of Sabbath so many times it's not funny... That Ginger Baker idea was crazy too!!!! These are NOT the same guys from 30/40 years ago.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : dblbass
2/11/2013 4:00:35 AM
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DUMBFUCK.


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COMMENT | satanic blues
posted by : cutter
2/10/2013 10:41:52 AM
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will be the final title of the Album. it just has a "ring" to it.


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COMMENT | Sorry Rick Rubin but...
posted by : FrozenCorpse
2/10/2013 10:48:59 AM
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I think Ginger Baker would be more appropriate, the man can still play :) even though he's a few years older than the three!

All in all, can't wait to hear the record! Definitely hope it's better than Psycho Man (I'm sure it will be :))


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COMMENT | Christ, Ginger Baker
posted by : jondazzle
2/10/2013 10:49:36 AM
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lets go from "simply odd (Ward)" to "snakeshit nuts (Baker)"


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COMMENT | #
posted by : Sadistikexekution
2/10/2013 10:50:52 AM
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Ozzy's just repeating what cunt $haron told him to say.


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posted by : txz045
2/10/2013 11:00:26 AM
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Outside of wishing Bill Ward was on drums I'm still trying to maintain being excited none the less.


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COMMENT | Satanic blues....
posted by : Green Machinist
2/10/2013 11:07:03 AM
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....how much time and money did $haron spend coming up with that.

I have ZERO confidence this will be any good at all. No chemistry without B.Ward, FAKE ASS VOCALS, Tony not exactly at the top of his game, $harons hands all over everything. Not fucking good.

Hating/blaming Rick Rubin is foolish. Supposedly he doesnt do anything, but somehow 99% of the shit he's involved in turns out killer. Weird coincidence,hey? He cant save this trainwreck though.


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COMMENT | 'RE: Satanic blues....'
posted by : JJJB
2/10/2013 11:20:48 AM
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Yeah guess Deaf Magnetic's horrible mix/clipping falls in that 1% that didn't.


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COMMENT | Pathetic Blues
posted by : Hemiskull
2/10/2013 11:33:31 AM
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"It starts off, 'God is dead,'" Osbourne says, "but at the end it says, 'I don't believe that God is dead.'"

What Oz you scared Wal-Mart won't sell the cd thought you better clear things up.

I wish them success but i think the album and tour will be a flop. Too many lawsuits too much time has passed.

No Bill Ward=No Chemistry




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COMMENT | ginger would have been cool.
posted by : YngwiesDonutBaker
2/10/2013 11:36:10 AM
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it could have worked, but i can can imagine ginger bitching that
geezer is too loud

after all "sabbath are like cream, only worse" lester bangs


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COMMENT | strange brew
posted by : dejavu
2/10/2013 11:51:13 AM
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haha, ginger baker?? Glad Iommi nixed that. Too bad Ward wasn't up for it, but ultimately that was his decision to make (enough with the $haron conspiriicies). The audioslave dude seems like an odd but solid choice, chemistry will be interesting. Would love to hear an interview with him about the making of the album.


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COMMENT | .+.
posted by : intlecktual
2/10/2013 12:10:49 PM
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I wonder if Ozzy even knew he was at a photo shoot? That photo suggests that he did not.


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posted by : rexandbo
2/10/2013 12:17:25 PM
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No anal leakage = No skid marks


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posted by : The_Zee
2/10/2013 12:19:09 PM
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No Bill = No Satan.


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posted by : angelus1
2/10/2013 12:31:39 PM
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Technical Geriatricasy


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posted by : raulcardenas20
2/10/2013 12:35:24 PM
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MY BODY IS READY. BRING IT.


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posted by : angelus1
2/10/2013 12:35:34 PM
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Volume Snore
Alzheimers
Masters of Dementia
Grey Sunday
Sabo-Age
Never Say Hospice


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : angelus1
2/10/2013 12:39:07 PM
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Sabbath Incontinent Sabbath


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COMMENT | Rage Against the Dumpchine
posted by : Loud'nHeavy
2/10/2013 12:45:59 PM
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is the last band I would ever expect Black Sabbath ro recruit their replacememnt drummer from. Im sure the guy can play but I dont think his style is going to fit with the Sabbs musicially. Guess we'll see when the record is released.


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COMMENT | Hello
posted by : Battle_Magic
2/10/2013 1:07:54 PM
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My name is Mr. Snrub!

aka

Sharon's "master plan": find a guy with a name that sounds like Bill Ward and hope nobody notices!!!


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posted by : San Diego Kid
2/10/2013 1:28:23 PM
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You are dumb to dismiss Glenn Hughes, Tony Martin can't sing anymore, DIO is dead and you spelled Gillan wrong truly showing what a dumbass you are!

Sabbath in any form \m/

Not happy with the drumming choice they should have gotten Joey Jordinson or Frost \m/ Seriously why not Simon Phillips or Vinnie Appice?


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : Sickboy666
2/10/2013 5:41:23 PM
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I'm glad they didn't pick Jordison.


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posted by : angelus1
2/10/2013 1:35:33 PM
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Okay, seriously, way too much talk about Brad Wilk's "Style"

Just because he's in RATM doesn't mean that's all he can do, it doesn't even necessarily mean he likes RATM music. Many musicians fall into bands they don't even really like because they are professionals, want to play, and get a gig and one thing leads to another. I'm sure he's just fine and can adapt to Sabbath very well, and they to him.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : dblbass
2/11/2013 4:06:32 AM
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I know I've played in lots of different bands through the years...and none of them even resembled each other. Though...all were heavy (damn right).


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COMMENT | He Said She Said
posted by : Geezer Iommi
2/10/2013 1:49:55 PM
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Tony says that Bill's demands came out of the blue, but Bill said that he told the guys he was having problems and they cut off all communications with him. Nice way to try and resolve the situation. A look back at Black Sabbath's history (Ozzy, Dio, Martin) shows that Tony will never address the issue and just hope that the problem resolves itself or goes away.


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COMMENT | 'RE: He Said She Said'
posted by : Deadsinktohell
2/10/2013 2:43:11 PM
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but then you also should know how ridiculous it is to pin down Bill and have him do something directly and in a timely fashion. I guarantee you that is what is standing in the way. Bill could probably come up with 13 new songs on drums in about 13 years....prove me wrong guys.


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COMMENT | !!!
posted by : Doros78
2/10/2013 1:57:32 PM
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great news and so what they got a new drummer??? its better then have nothing. Ozzy isnt the greatest singer in the world but he has a unique voice that you either hate or love and the same can be said about any of the other singers, but Glenn Hughes is probably the best one of them.


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COMMENT | Dear Haters:
posted by : Deadsinktohell
2/10/2013 2:41:02 PM
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Really don't see what the problem is with the drummer. If you listen to RATM, you'll notice that there are characteristics of some swing, and a hell of a lot of rhythm going on in their stuff, maybe not bill ward-level swing, but enough. I really think the drumming is the most replaceable aspect of the original quartet, and this is obvious by the success of such albums like Mob Rules and Dehumanizer, neither of which Bill played on (nor Ozzy for that matter).

That being said, I agree Rick Rubin's input was probably minimal, however he is kind of a big-picture guy, and I think he's good for inspiring bands to do the best that they can. If you read the Iommi book or the Ozzy book, you know that Tony is at the helm on this one, anybody thinking he's not has no comprehension of Iommi's work ethic when it comes to recording.


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COMMENT | Better name for the album.....
posted by : Neil Young's Cocaine Booger
2/10/2013 2:42:47 PM
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We sold our soul for bladder control


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COMMENT | Was Tommy Clufetos not on the record
posted by : Manish
2/10/2013 3:19:13 PM
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beacuse they only need him for a show on stage, and sucks in the studio or what?


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COMMENT | 'RE: Was Tommy Clufetos not on the record'
posted by : Loud'nHeavy
2/10/2013 8:29:10 PM
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Clufartos will play drums on the tour,


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COMMENT | WTF?
posted by : Krenna
2/10/2013 4:04:02 PM
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Ginger Baker in Black Sabbath........that's just Fucking Creepy!





Rick Ruben GTFO!!


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COMMENT | Frost !!! ...
posted by : Green Machinist
2/10/2013 4:30:13 PM
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...thats funny, but interesting ,too. How about Hellhammer?


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posted by : theredpill
2/10/2013 5:01:28 PM
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No Morey Amsterdam = No Dick Van Dyke Show!


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COMMENT | should have called upon
posted by : dethryde
2/10/2013 5:15:04 PM
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the mighty Horgh from Immortal. Adding icey cold Arctic blast beats to the mix. Yeaaaaaaaah!


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posted by : zzzzzzzzzzzzz
2/10/2013 5:31:18 PM
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they should call the album --

"bill clinton did 911"
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posted by : deerock
2/10/2013 6:40:39 PM
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"You can't go, 'Well, I don't like it.' You get off your ass and get your shit together. The life of a bohemian rock star is fucking long over."

I couldn't agree with half the things Ozzy says most of the time but this one's fucking epic! We're glad the 3 of you got YOUR shit together Ozz.


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COMMENT | Can't Wait
posted by : RedZombie
2/10/2013 7:30:37 PM
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Bill's gone for good by the looks of it, but if he's gonna be the way he is, then good riddance. Hopefully they play some rare tracks on tour, also Ozzy looks pretty brutal in that picture.


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COMMENT | #
posted by : theblindingape
2/10/2013 10:43:45 PM
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It should be noted he said the same thing about Kelly's album..


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COMMENT | I'm excited.
posted by : Another Generic Username 666
2/11/2013 12:24:31 AM
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Fuck all y'all if you don't like it. 2013 is the year for BLACK SABBATH.


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COMMENT | #
posted by : SHARONOSBOURNE'SPUSSY SMELLS
2/11/2013 12:36:37 AM
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Black Sabbath died with Mob Rules.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : \m/Metallord\m/
2/11/2013 3:20:09 AM
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Na some of the stuff in 80's was cool...Love the Username too \,,/


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: #'''
posted by : dblbass
2/11/2013 4:09:30 AM
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Actually....I don't "dislike" any of the Sabbath stuff of the 80s. Well...that Forbidden album wasn't the cream....but that's the only one.


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COMMENT | 'RE:'
posted by : RiotAct666
2/11/2013 3:56:38 PM
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Forbidden came out in 1995.


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COMMENT | 'RE: #'
posted by : jugulator2
2/11/2013 6:04:23 AM
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So you didn't like Dehumanizer then?


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COMMENT | ROCKET RANT – Why I’m Boycotting The New BLACK SABBATH Album
posted by : themetalden.com
2/11/2013 7:40:57 AM
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http://themetalden.com/?p=32134


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COMMENT | LOL
posted by : Another Generic Username 666
2/11/2013 9:43:44 PM
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Fuck "boycotters"....in this day and age, "boycot" means "I'll download it for free"...means NOTHING, I guarantee you anybody with even a passing interest in Black Sabbath is going to get it somehow.


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COMMENT | The ONLY COMPLETE BLACK SABBATH page on FB
posted by : Johnny_boy_Angel
2/13/2013 2:40:30 PM
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For anybody interested...

The best Black Sabbath page on fb - every era, album, member, and historical note


https://www.facebook.com/groups/Complete.Black.Sabbath/


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