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GUNS N' ROSES Guitarist BUMBLEFOOT: 'Just Forget About A New Record Until It Happens' - Mar. 5, 2013
GUNS N' ROSES guitarist Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal took part in a live chat on Saturday, March 2 from the 2013 National Fiery Foods and Barbecue Show.

Asked about the possibility of the current GUNS N' ROSES lineup releasing a new album in the near future, Thal said: "You know what?! Just forget about a new record until it happens. I mean, I can't even begin… How long have we been talking about a new fucking record? And I'm the only that doesn't bullshit you people about it and I say, no, we haven't been in the studio together; no, we haven't started writing together as a band."

He continued: "If something came out at this point, it would be very old material that is just being released now. So it would be unheard material, but to me, I don't consider that a new record, I consider that just releasing old material from a band that doesn't exist anymore. And we need to make an album of this band right now. And I hit up Axl [Rose, GUNS N' ROSES singer] again two days ago. I was, like, 'Hey, while we're in Australia, let's make some music. Let's work on some stuff.' But we'll see what happens.

"I'm all about making music; that's why I make music — to make music. So I'd like to really do that.I would be very happy if GUNS N' ROSES could do that. We'll see what happens. That's all I can say. I mean, at this point, we're just doing shows and doing shows and doing shows. And the shows are great and we're having fun and everything. But I've got the itch. I've had the itch for a long fucking time. I wanna make some music with these motherfuckers. It's a damn good band and we should really have the opportunity to give what we can to all of you, and make some music for you.

"If anyone reads any of my long-ass interviews where I am ranting like I am right now, you know how I feel about it and that's what I'm about. All I can say is, look, it's not up to me. It's gotta be unanimous, so I hope unanimously at some point everyone says, 'Alright, let's just put life to the side, everything to the side, and just focus on this and make it happen and make some music together.' I think it would be fucking great, and I hope it happens.

"But as far as seeing a new album in the future, I don't see it in the near future, no. It's gonna be a while — if it's gonna be with this band writing from the beginning.

"So, yeah, there's reality for you. I wish I had something better I can tell you, guys, because we all want the same thing — we want new music; me and you."

"Chinese Democracy", the 2008 album released by the current edition of GUNS N' ROSES after a 15-year wait, re-entered The Billboard 200 chart in April 2011 after it was made available at BestBuy.com for a reduced price of $1.99.

Best Buy was the exclusive U.S. retailer for "Chinese Democracy", reportedly paying $14 million for 1.6 million copies. But the album was a major sales disappointment, moving less than 700,000 copies to date despite the curiosity and hype surrounding its release.

The CD was officially certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) on February 3, 2009 for shipments in the United States in excess of one million copies.

"Chinese Democracy" came out 15 years after its predecessor, 1993's "The Spaghetti Incident". It took more than a decade to record, during which every original member of the band except Rose was replaced and four different producers were used.

Nevertheless, Rose hinted in a 2002 interview that the lengthy sessions for the record had left him with enough material for two follow-ups.

In addition sole original member Axl Rose, the current lineup of GUNS N' ROSES includes guitarists Thal, Richard Fortus and DJ Ashba, bassist Tommy Stinson, keyboardists Dizzy Reed and Chris Pitman and drummer Frank Ferrer.



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posted by : Jesse Pinkman
3/5/2013 6:52:27 PM
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Hired-Guns N' Roses


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posted by : wolfmanvsdracula
3/5/2013 7:05:39 PM
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I dont care whos in the band as long as Axl is singing and writing lyrics.

But then again I care more about music itself than someones hair, weight, clothing, past, and all that. I honestly liked most of Chi Dem. Some missteps sure, but some steps forward as well.

They stopped showing up to gigs late a year or two ago and the old guys left 20 years ago at this point so its silly to continue with that as well. i just wish theyd start releasing albums. Theres really no point in being a band if you dont wanna do that.


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posted by : Zambo
3/5/2013 7:15:10 PM
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Do you just have a hard-on for Axhole?

What if Robert Plant, or Ozzy, or Steven Tyler, or a hundred other singers just hired new guys but continued under their respective bands (Zeppelin, Sabbath, Aerosmith, etc)?

Robert Plant 3 random guys does not equal Led Zeppelin.
Ozzy 3 random guys does not equal Black Sabbath.
Steven Tyler 4 random guys does not equal Aerosmith.
And Axhole 7 random guys (I think its 7) does not equal GNR.

Don't you have any respect for the other guys who help contribute or were all their contributions rather meaningless?


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posted by : wolfmanvsdracula
3/5/2013 7:33:32 PM
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Fair points but at the same time, Im over it. i just wanna hear music. I dont care what they call it. GNR or The Axl Rose band isnt gonna make me hear the album different. I agreed with you 20/15/10 years ago regarding THIS band but now, who cares. Not the old guys and not Axl or the new guys, so why would I still care, you know? Every ex member of GNR is making music elsewhere under different band names. Thats not what matters to me when my head phones are on.

Axls GNR sounds more like GNR than what any other members have going on due to his voice and him and Izzy being the main songwriters. Of course Id love for them to get together again and all, but there comes a point where you accept what youre given or move on. I like it enough so Im gonna stay. If you dont, then leave. Whats the point of CONSTANTLY whining in every GNR thread about things that havent been relevant points for 20 years?

And as far as do I respect the original band, nowadays... Just Izzy and Duff.


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posted by : BSlash24
3/6/2013 1:30:37 AM
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over what? you aren't hearing music and the guitarist is basicaly saying, shamefully, that there's ZERO on the horizon. Axl sounds more like GnR? He's touring play old songs with guys trying to sound like the old band, note for note. This isn't a creative endeavor. The guitarist is stating this with perfectly, almost pleading with you. He is disappointed...what are you holding on to? You should be "whining". what are you cheering? One of the bands 6 guitarist is even "whining". He's fed up. No doubt. 100%. what's not to understand?

this interview, with no term uncertain, sums up what I have been saying for many posts. This is silly at this point. Axl is one of rock's bizarrest stories. a freak show at this point. What are you Axl fans holding on to? Don't you expect something more?

This is patethic. I know you want to keep saying "Hack Slash, these are the real GnR, play circles around Slash". well, bumblefoot isn't agreeing with you, he's not even getting the chance, and he sounds pretty bummed, if not pissed. Sounds like he was sold a different story.


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posted by : dew044
3/6/2013 5:55:24 AM
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But Iommi and 3 random guys does


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posted by : HJSimpson
3/6/2013 8:39:48 AM
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But Dave Mustaine whoever = Megadeth Lemmy whoever = Motorhead Vincent Furnier whoever = Alice Cooper Dani Filth whoever = Cradle of Filth


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posted by : Mike Portnoy's Empty Tissue Box
3/5/2013 6:53:42 PM
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As opposed to forgetting about the new record.the day after it's released, like we did with Chinese Democracy.


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posted by : wolfmanvsdracula
3/5/2013 6:56:46 PM
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refreshing honesty outta this guy. respect.


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posted by : Dr. Unk
3/5/2013 7:01:14 PM
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Oh, we have!


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posted by : RockRoadie1x
3/5/2013 7:02:28 PM
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Why does Axl keep this guy around, when all he's ever saying is the need to make a record? Thal obviously realizes he's gets a much bigger paycheck from a live show and in all honesty, that's what fans of Axl want to hear (the old stuff).

I mean, I got my CD from Best Buy for like $1.99. Split that 8 ways, producer, etc, what did Thal get from each disc, 12 cents?


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COMMENT | So Here's The Downside To Being A Hired Gun.....
posted by : The Mighty TB
3/5/2013 7:03:22 PM
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Come on Ron, be like the other guys including Axl. Tap your ruby slippers together and keep repeating "it's a steady paycheck - live gigs playing mostly 25 year old songs by the original incarnation of this band beats flippin' burgers."


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posted by : Zambo
3/5/2013 7:08:29 PM
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This guy is the polar opposite of Ashba who acts like everything's fine, tons of material ready to go, Axl's inspired, yadda fucking yadda.

If Bumblefoot wasn't making a decent paycheck being a hired gun, he'd be the fuck out of there. Because that's all GNR is these days, a paycheck. Bumblefoot is the only one who appears to be at least somewhat sane. He has some clue that something is wrong, he just can't bring himself to admit that its Axhole, and this will be the way its going to be forever.

Read up on Hiroo Onoda
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroo_Onoda

He was a Japanese soldier who spent almost 30 years hiding in the jungle because he didn't believe WW2 was over. There were lots of attempts to convince him, but he just didn't believe it.

That's what Bumblefoot reminds me of. He's going to spend the rest of his life in GNR, and one day look back and wonder WTF he did all those years. WW2 and GNR are over. It's time to wakeup and get out of there. Its a good paycheck, so I can't fault a guy for trying to earn a living. But if he's so frustrated about not making new music, he needs to understand that its 100% Axhole's fault, and that there will never be another album of new material from GNR.

Once Axhole dies, then the record companies will get ahold of the old shit, and release it like Hendrix and 2Pac who seem to have a new album every year, even though they're dead.


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posted by : BSlash24
3/6/2013 1:33:10 AM
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I agree, i like this guy. why is he even bothering? Im sure he had aspirations. THe pay check is better than he's seen, but he's beyond frustrated.

the label won't get Axl's stuff. He's got a strong hold on it, not the label.

Axl's beyond confused and scared. His guitarist is disgusted with him.


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posted by : evergreenLayne
3/5/2013 7:10:41 PM
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Got to be pure torture working with Axl Rose. "Tour the world we me but play my old band's hits night after night!" Sounds like a special place in hell.


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posted by : gtrslinger
3/5/2013 7:14:52 PM
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There won't be another gnr cd..for one,
axl probley dont want to hassle with
putting together another albums worth
of crap....nobody is gonna buy new music from
these guys cuz its not the original band...
so at this point its probley better to milk
the cow dry with just touring for the
next five years


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posted by : MarlaHooch
3/5/2013 7:15:53 PM
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Remember all those rumors about Axl making folks sign gag orders?

I think BBF has proven that to be patently false at this point. So there's that.

Seems to me if it were a "solo band" like everyone says, stuff like this wouldn't be tolerated. You don't see Don Henley's drummer giving contrarian views in the press.


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posted by : Zambo
3/5/2013 7:21:05 PM
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Bumblefoot is dancing on the tightrope. He's walking the fine line between complaining about delays in general and flat out blaming Axhole.

And besides, Axhole is so oblivious to comments like this anyways. He's released one album in 20 years, and shows up late for shows. He can barely get out of bed at this point. And he doesn't care if Ron's unhappy. He's replaceable. He could fire Ron right now if he wanted to, because he still has 2 other guitarists.


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posted by : wolfmanvsdracula
3/5/2013 7:37:56 PM
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They havent been late for a show in a couple years. You can talk shit on Axl for a bunch of reasons. Why bring up crap he doesnt do and hasnt done in years?


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posted by : Zambo
3/5/2013 9:56:23 PM
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He doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt at this point. Axl's The Boy Who Cried Punctual.


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posted by : BSlash24
3/6/2013 10:58:40 AM
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Marla Hooch, you find something to celebrate about Axl, even when his own band members are having a mutany. "well, true, Axl won't create new music, but hey, he's not firing these guys for speaking out"....AND? who cares? really. So he's more tolerant that they worst tyrant Don Henley. Excellent!!

ok, you got us Marla Hooch, Axl is mellowing in his old age. He just wants musicians talented enough to recreate their old music note for note. They can take a smaller salary, and they are allowed to bite the hand that feeds. cool. We got it. How about some Music from this new band.

and it IS a solo band, Bumblefoot is saying this. He's saying he's got ZERO say. he's beyond frustrated. I don't care if it is or not, make music!....We shall see how long he lasts too btw.


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COMMENT | give this guy credit
posted by : brir
3/5/2013 7:36:16 PM
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he could just shut up and collect his paycheck and travel the world like the rest of the band, but he's actually pretty honest. it's probably gonna get him booted, but i give him a little credit for being honest at least...


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posted by : DARK1349THRONE
3/5/2013 7:45:39 PM
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I was the biggest Gunner in my school. It was 1989 and I was in the 4th grade. I was cranking up AFD and no one had ANY fucking idea what was going on. (Mind you, I have a brother that is 13 years older than me so I had the access.) Here I am in my 30's looking back on those days and am like, "What the fuck!?!?!" How can a band so "powerful" and "together" fall to pieces?!?!? Well, I have the answer: Drugs and Axl fucking Rose... That dude can write some AMAZING lyrics and music but in the end, he is a complete fuck. He had the power to make or break GN'F'N'R and he broke it. Fuck you for that... However, thanks for the memories, Axlhole. Those times were the were fucking great... I WAS a Gunner, now I couldn't give two shits or a fuck about Axl or Slash. The only ones I care to read about is Adler, Izzy and Duff. Adler because of his trials, Izzy because he is the only one that still makes quality Rock, and Duff for his endurance and business ethics. I highly doubt in the 90's Duff thought he would be where he is today.
With that being said, the closest any one of us will EVER get to GN'R is when Axl "invites" someone like Duff to come on and do a song or two. Ok, Im done. I hardly ever rant about GN'R but even Axl's new band members are fucking restless. They want out of their cages and want to write a record that will fucking BURN Chi Dem...


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COMMENT | OH YES
posted by : fortress
3/5/2013 8:21:30 PM
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POPCORN TIME


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posted by : wolfmanvsdracula
3/5/2013 8:23:49 PM
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Metalheads <3 drama, eh?


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COMMENT | 'RE: ''RE: OH YES'''
posted by : fortress
3/5/2013 9:42:18 PM
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nah its just too funny to read all the comments ,,,, you dont like to have a good laugh?? Axl dont deserve better from me


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COMMENT | So Bumblefoot now works at the Fast and Loud garage ?
posted by : Green Machinist
3/5/2013 8:24:23 PM
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...Gas Monkey Richard as a boss, or Ass Monkey Axl as a dictator?


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COMMENT | Who is the crazy Russell Brand guy on the right?
posted by : Green Machinist
3/5/2013 8:31:18 PM
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Look at all them fuckers! I bet during rehearsals Axl makes them wear name tags, and introduce themselves like media at a press conference : "Axl? Bumblebut, guitar. Can we make some music, soon. Maybe. Please?"


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posted by : kickback
3/5/2013 8:38:08 PM
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At least Thal speaks the truth and he sounds like he is quite frustrated. His days with Axl may be numbered but I have a feeling he just doesn't give a shit because creatively this version of Guns n Roses is lifeless.


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3/6/2013 1:34:00 AM
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souless.


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posted by : hurricane hugo
3/6/2013 9:51:49 AM
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clueless

plur


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COMMENT | I'M
posted by : fortress
3/5/2013 8:43:21 PM
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a new fan of Bumblefoot


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posted by : syko kyd
3/5/2013 8:51:39 PM
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This fuckin guy is awesome. Just says what's on his mind and doesn't give a shit.


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posted by : HORRORHOLIC
3/5/2013 8:52:45 PM
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Ron has always seemed like a great guy and is a kick ass musician. But he is being held down by being in this band. You can tell he doesn't waf it nna start any trouble with Axl but he's just about had it with the same old shit routine.


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COMMENT | I'll take my time Axl
posted by : RedZombie
3/5/2013 8:54:14 PM
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after all, you're taking yours. Still don't own Chi Dem, and I think it's pretty decent. Bought Slash's new one though, hahahahahaha. If you ain't gonna respect the fans why should I respect you? Making phony excuses for showing up so late and what have you.


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3/5/2013 8:57:15 PM
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a new fan of Bumblefoot


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COMMENT | Just Forget About A New Record...
posted by : RockShowTrader.Com
3/5/2013 9:00:25 PM
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OK. Done.


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posted by : RiotAct666
3/5/2013 9:20:07 PM
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Screw Axhole Pose & his frauds and hacks world's greatest tribute band!!!!!!!

Scab GNR plays to empty seats every night, plus now do so in 3D, and he now lost that activision court battle for the video game guitar hero, which was released not too long ago! And got his punk a** beaten down by Tommy Hilfiger


The fans hate Poser Rose and will keep doing so forever!!!!!!!!!


Hail & long live the real Guns lineup that being of course: Slash , Izzy , Adler and Duff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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3/5/2013 9:43:40 PM
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DId someone know what happenned to the real Riot ass licker 666????


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COMMENT | Oh please.
posted by : Another Generic Username 666
3/5/2013 9:21:16 PM
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Axl Rose's Guns N Roses, Geoff Tate's Queensryche and Jack Russell's Great White. At a bar near you.


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COMMENT | lol...
posted by : nodeerforamonth
3/5/2013 9:30:21 PM
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"'Just Forget About A New Record Until It Happens' "

DONE!


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COMMENT | 'RE: lol...'
posted by : Zambo
3/5/2013 9:58:40 PM
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At this point, I'll forget it, even IF that turd comes out. But let's be honest, it won't.


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posted by : Sadistikexekution
3/5/2013 9:47:10 PM
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Bumblefukk should be happy to play with King AXLevery night.
Want to record sone music, get the fukk out and do it.
There are millions of guitarists out there who want to take his place just to serve King AXL, aren't there hakk slash ?

So:
FUKK HAKK SLASH, MUFFMEISTER MCLOAD, JUNKIE ADLER & ASSKISSER RIOTACT.

AXL=GNR!!!
AXL=GOD!!!


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posted by : LALSTE
3/6/2013 7:42:00 AM
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Young man, its time for your medication.


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COMMENT | ^^^ T-BONER
posted by : RockShowTrader.Com
3/5/2013 10:10:50 PM
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Welcome Back


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COMMENT | that's why I make music — to make music.
posted by : Itwalksamongus
3/5/2013 10:36:41 PM
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Whoa.

Beyond that bit of stupidity, I'll go this guy one better and not worry about this stupid fucking band. Ron Thal is a good guitarist, no question. But this is not Guns N Roses. This is like those ever-worsening line-ups Tony Iommi used to trot out and still call it Black Sabbath. Saw a recent video of this dog-and-pony show. Buncha hired hands and Axl pretty much a shadow - okay, a fat shadow - of his former self.

Fuck this "band".


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COMMENT | Saw the hired guns
posted by : Icarus21
3/5/2013 10:49:45 PM
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Tokyo, December 2009...the played for just under 4 hours. It was the fourth show of the Chi Dem tour. They started on time. Early in the tour so Lord Axl's voice was strong. He was busting Ashba's ass all night telling him to keep up (please ditch the hat). Bumble is a shred master from hell. Good fill for Mr. Buckethead. Bumble is honest which is respectful to those shelling out cash for the shows. Bottom line: The longer they go without new material, the more they become a parody of themselves and deserve every ounce of ridicule.


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posted by : NoneBuriedDeeper
3/6/2013 3:36:54 AM
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This is not a band. It's one asshole boss and 6 employees.


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posted by : booch
3/6/2013 6:40:09 AM
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What new record?

See what I did there?


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COMMENT | I'm all about making music; that's why I make music — to make music
posted by : tpie
3/6/2013 7:45:54 AM
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redundant, much?


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COMMENT | @tpie, @Itwalksamongus
posted by : Hayden
3/6/2013 8:19:32 AM
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Yeah, but he wants to get his damn point across - he's in the music business to_make_music. He's highlighting just how integral that is to being a musician, and just how absurd it is to NOT make music in this profession. The purpose IS the product, and without the product, his life as a musician has no purpose. He's delivering that message in the most simplistic terms in order to show what a straightforward idea it is, and he's repeating it for the same reason Marge Simpson repeats herself in 'Lemon of Troy'.

...Or maybe he just dun goofed, but I managed to make sense of it.


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COMMENT | tpie
posted by : fortress
3/6/2013 8:50:08 AM
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Come on, i just tell us that he dont want to play in a Cover band all his life and actually want to create music. Not hard to understand damn it.


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posted by : sentimental movie
3/6/2013 10:46:27 AM
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even with total strangers, no music is made..... i guess history repeats itself, slash, duff and izzy were the real drive, period.
no axl, no slash, no izzy, no duff, no steven, NO GNR !


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posted by : BSlash24
3/6/2013 11:04:38 AM
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it goes to show you can't just get talented players and expect to have chemistry to make a band. Maybe you can. But shoe horning players together only works when recreating the old music, live. They might not be like minded at all to write music.

best case senario, Axl changes members frequently to keep things fresh, as he continues to write new styles of music, and is a musical chameleon, ala David BOwie. But hes' not doing that either.

Axl was once this creative force, that after the success of AFD, he wanted to blow that up, and create UYI, and make something even greater(in his mind)...now he's the guy that pretty much has become a legacy act, as Bumblefoot says, they just play shows with the old music.

BTW, much of Chin.Dem was written during his period with the other guys. This is an epic writers block to say the least. I'd think twice saying Axl is the creative force behind GnR. He was a force, but with the others.

this Bumblefoot interview is extremely telling.


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Don't worry Bumble Bee... I forgot about Guns N Roses when the band disbanded in 92 and was no more!


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