NIGHTWISH's TUOMAS HOLOPAINEN Rules Out Reunion With TARJA TURUNEN: 'That's Not Gonna Happen'

In a new interview with U.K.'s Metal Hammer magazine, NIGHTWISH keyboardist/leader Tuomas Holopainen reflected on the band's 2005 split with original lead singer Tarja Turunen.

Turunen was fired from NIGHTWISH at the end of the band's 2005 tour by being presented with an open letter which was published on the NIGHTWISH web site at the same time. In the letter, the other members of NIGHTWISH wrote: "To you, unfortunately, business, money, and things that have nothing to do with emotions have become much more important."

Holopainen told Metal Hammer that NIGHTWISH "get blamed for what happened, for good reason" but insisted that "there was no future" for the band with Turunen. "We were just operating in survival mode and plagued by these dark thoughts," he explained. He added that the remaining NIGHTWISH members "got completely butchered in the media" after the open letter was published. "It was like we were these evil neanderthals who'd hurt our wonderful ex-singer," Holopainen recalled. "I got some really interesting letters, let's put it that way."

Holopainen went on to say that there is no chance of a NIGHTWISH reunion with Turunen.

"It was a divorce, and an ugly one at that," he explained, "so I think we have our own lives now. Someone did say to me if we got Tarja and Marko [Hietala, former NIGHTWISH bassist/vocalist who left in 2020] back in, we could tour just South America for a year straight. That's not gonna happen."

Last month, Tarja told U.K.'s Metal Hammer magazine about her 2005 split with NIGHTWISH: "It's very sad how everything ended up [with NIGHTWISH], but the thing that I would have done differently is, I probably should have put them through hell. I had all my rights, there were contracts, and they would have been in deep shit for a long time if I had done that, according to my rights, but I didn't. I just decided to move on and leave."

Tarja continued: "What followed was their really great planning, how they wanted to destroy me publicly. That was something I never expected. It was nasty.

"It was an insane period [after the split], and in a small country like Finland, my face was covering the tabloids for three weeks or so," Tarja said. "I left my home country. I had to. I went down to Buenos Aires.

"It was tough, because it affected so many more people than just me," Turunen added. "It affected my family, my friends. Everybody was destroyed. It took me a long time to gain trust in people again. But luckily, I have amazing relationships and a long-lasting marriage with my husband. My family, my friends were there for me in that very hard period."

Holopainen later called the decision to part ways with Turunen "the most difficult thing I ever had to do." For her part, Tarja said a few years ago the way she was kicked out of the group proved that her former bandmates were not her friends. "Maybe one day I'll forgive, but I will never forget," she said.

In 2019, Turunen dismissed Internet chatter about her possible return to NIGHTWISH after her December 2017 onstage reunion with the band's then-bassist/vocalist Marko Hietala during a "Raskasta Joulua" concert in Hämeenlinna, Finland.

"I know a lot of fans would love to see something happen, but it's a very long distance away," she told Kerrang! magazine. "Personally, I don't see anything happening with me and them, to be perfectly honest. Marko came a little later into the band; he wasn't there since the beginning. He was always a guy I was close to. Me and Tuomas Holopainen, however, haven't seen each other in a long time… but we have been in touch. It's not bad. The past is what it is; we can't change that. We can only change the future."

NIGHTWISH's authorized biography, "Once Upon a Nightwish: The Official Biography 1996-2006", was published in Finnish in 2006 and in English three years later.

Turunen's husband, Marcelo Cabuli, and his business partners later sued the parties behind the book for defamation. Named in the lawsuit were the publishing house Like Kustannus Oy and the author of the book, Marko "Mape" Ollila. Cabuli and his Brazilian business partners argued that the book includes false accusations and insinuations that have caused them suffering and financial problems.

The book blamed Cabuli for the events leading up to Turunen's dramatic expulsion from the band in late 2005.

In 2011, the Helsinki District Court dismissed Cabuli's lawsuit, ruling that the book — which criticized Cabuli on only a few of its 380 pages — did not detrimentally affect his work or reputation in South America. In addition, the court determined that Ollila did not maliciously portray Cabuli in a negative light.

Five years ago, Tarja was asked in an interview with Top Link Music manager and concert promoter Paulo Baron and music critic Regis Tadeu if she would consider doing a tour with NIGHTWISH if all of her former bandmates apologized to her about how their split happened and invited her to share the stage with them again. She responded: "It is very, very hypothetical that all what you said will happen, first of all — it's very, very hypothetical.

"I'm living in a world, like we are all living in a world, that things happen without us noticing," she continued. "I mean, I can't really close any doors in that sense; I'm not that kind of person any longer. I learned so many things in this life already. I take them as they are.

"So I don't know. It would be very hypothetically possible," she added. "It would be unlikely to happen."

Turunen's latest metal album, "Frisson Noir", came out in June via earMUSIC. The effort was described in a press release as "the heaviest record of her career and a powerful statement of identity, strength and belonging".

Current NIGHTWISH singer Floor Jansen made her live debut with the band on October 1, 2012 at Showbox Sodo in Seattle, Washington following the abrupt departure of NIGHTWISH's lead singer of five years, Anette Olzon.

Jansen officially joined NIGHTWISH in 2013 and made her recording debut with the group on 2015's "Endless Forms Most Beautiful" album.